Sony Xperia Pro hands-on - true Pro or half-hearted concept?

11 July 2021
The $2,500 Sony phone has an HDMI port and one party trick - streaming over mmWave 5G.

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Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021No. They expect a phone to be worth its price. If you... moreDear, if the phone was ready, they would have released in May with 1ii.
Not all products are developed in 6 months like regular phones.
Their Alphas take about 2 years at least.

The dual cam of XZ2 Premium with the Aube chip.
Sony was working on it since before the announcement of XZ (september 2016).
Still, it was announced 2 months after XZ2, in April 2018.

You cannot just get the phone and insert the 888 (it has integrated modem, 865 does not), the periscope and new 4500 battery.
The inside of 1iii is not same of 1ii, many pieces were redesigned, same way 1ii compared to 1.

The prototype was showcased at IFA2019.
The design was not even the one used in the end.
Also, prototype was used by TV channel from USA back then.

If gsmarena expects the best at this price, they should demand big foldables (too big for phones, too small for tablets, worse and more expensive than both) to have at least QHD instead of Full HD, also same cam system used by their best phones. Samsung does not do both.

You sound Android Police. Complained about Xperia 5ii for $950.
But instead of comparing it to S20 and 12 Pro (both announced for $1000) they used 20 FE and 12 Mini to say it was too expensive.

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    • 11 Jul 2021

    Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021You just made up bunch of stuff as usualFacts is making stuff up?

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      Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021What? 4:4:4? Oh please show me a project where you needed t... moreEverything you said is an excuse when that price tag comes in.

        Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021You don't logic much do you?What part of what I said was wrong? Please enlighten me using facts and not random 'Sony s-ucks' parroting.

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          Dometalican, 11 Jul 2021"It's a shame, because for $2,500 we'd expec... moreYou don't logic much do you?

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            • 11 Jul 2021

            PRoArtsy, 11 Jul 2021This shows the way Sony is designing their phones these day... moreWell they are doing a terrible job at that as they have for years.

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              Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021So, gsmarena wants a phone that was being made since 2019 t... moreNo. They expect a phone to be worth its price.
              If you're going to be designing it that long then release it sooner or drop the price if its going to be behind and lack things. No old gen cpu, plastic frame, dim display, poor battery, average speakers, underwhelming package,, and instead of reduced price its more than double the price.

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                • 11 Jul 2021

                Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021Still behind other flagships. Other flagship get almost twi... moreLet's explain how oled works.

                Pixels are not backlit like LCD. They can self generate when stimulated.
                Larger pixels have higher emission than smaller pixels.
                21:9 screens are smaller than 20:9/19:9/18:9/16:9 of same diagonal.
                Pixels are smaller in the end.
                Brightness is gonna change acoording to amount of white image on screen.
                Oled pushed brightness as amount of white decreases.

                Also, for your info, for example the most accurate point of older Xperia 1 (delta 0.71) is achieved at 317.55 nits. As you increase or decrease brightness from this point colour accuracy goes down. I do not think the newer models go far from this data.

                It is funny when phones like Z3 and Z3+ (866 and 789 nits measured by this website) were the brightest screens at their time, none was complaing phones like S6/S7 could not even reach 620 nits (less than 400 manual)
                I wonder how users (S7 and S7 edge together sold about 49 million units) were able to use their phones outside. If according to some people here brightness is only factor involved (LOL).

                Even funnier haters did not complain about the fact Z5 Premium, XZ Premium, XZ2 Premium had lower brightness than 1 series.

                Higher brightness also means higher energy emission.
                This decreases the lifespam of pixels.
                No, oled today is not more burn-in proof than oled of years ago.
                You can still be victim within weeks.
                This is why companies are investing on microLED.

                Little math :

                S21U = 112.1 cm2
                12P Max = 109.8 cm2
                11U = 112 cm2
                9 Pro = 108.4 cm2
                1iii = 98.6cm2

                Each 1cm2 on 1iii has bit over 64000 pixels, while each 1cm2 on S21U has bit over 41100 pixels. You have over 50% more pixels living in the same space on xperia.
                They are at least 50% smaller.

                Tip: if you dont care about accuracy, go to RGB control and set 0 for all three. Blueish screen (a.k.a cold profile) is gonna be brighter.

                ** First galaxy S to pass 660 nits was S10 series. How could all those users use the previous models? 🤔

                  Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021Display is not bad at all let a lone extremely bad outside.... morePut a real, non-glossy, display with 16:9 or 4:3 on your camera, and you might realize nobody is talking about the phone but professional use of this device.
                  This device is a display with 5G hotspot, that has a mobile phone attached to it.

                  If you reviewed this device as just a phone, I can almost guarantee you would not be able to find a worse deal on the market.
                  PS: It's extremely bad and glossy.

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                    Fearghast, 11 Jul 2021The main question here is will any "Pro creator" ... moreDisplay is not bad at all let a lone extremely bad outside. It's perfectly fine outside, nothing wrong with it. I'm really not sure where people are getting this stuff. It's one thing that it doesn't go to eye bleeding levels but it's the whole other thing of not being legible under sunlight. That thing is simply not true. Put your Samsung into Natural mode and go outside see what happens.

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                      Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021Features too limited to be used as professional videographe... moreYou just made up bunch of stuff as usual

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                        Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021It's a half hearted concept. I've done video wor... moreWhat? 4:4:4? Oh please show me a project where you needed to film 4:4:4 in RAW I would love to see that one and would love to see how you squeezed that extra data to benefit from it. You must have filmed something with bunch of banding or for master HDR delivery.

                        They couldn't have done USB dongle style cause there was no need for such thing next to HDMI. Does your BMD Video Assist hook up over TB USB-C? Nope, cause there is no need for such thing.

                        When it comes to BMCC I know the experience first hand. We sold all of our XDCAMs back in 2013 and purchased BMCCs to keep up with the trend in affordable film making. We got rid of them within two years and never returned to any BMD camera to date.

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                          Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021Still behind other flagships. Other flagship get almost twi... moreSony brand boys are crying coz almost everything they talked about the Xperia 1 III improvements has turned out to be a gimmick. Sony never fixed basic issues that plagued last year's Xperia like improper cooling, dim display, auto mode camera performance, etc.

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                            Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021How 1iii screen is worse than 1ii when it has higher accura... moreStill behind other flagships. Other flagship get almost twice as bright in Max auto mode.
                            Lower quality panel of Xperia might start crying 😢 trying to push that much nits.

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                              • 11 Jul 2021

                              Who's thus exactly for? 5g isn't even developed as yet in major parts

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                                Fearghast, 11 Jul 2021The main question here is will any "Pro creator" ... moreIf you are not a camera professional user, don't blindly criticize as you don't know.

                                  The cost for essentially an added HDMI port is really to justify. I remember my old Xperia P had one 10 years ago

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                                    AnonD-940827, 11 Jul 2021Red one, all over again. Both with outdated hardware, extre... moreAt least Apple has big market share, Sony Xperia doesn't.

                                      Anonymous, 11 Jul 2021How 1iii screen is worse than 1ii when it has higher accura... morePut Xperia 1 III and Galaxy S21 Ultra side by side and go outside. You will see why.

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                                        Fearghast, 11 Jul 2021Xperia 1 III has worse display than Xperia 1 II, so I belie... moreHow 1iii screen is worse than 1ii when it has higher accuracy and lower reflection level (now 3,8%; lowest of all phones)?

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