Rumor: Xiaomi Mi Mix 4 will have a completely invisible under display camera, rear display

07 July 2021
The display will have 1080p+ resolution and only two curved sides. The secondary display on the rear will be larger than Mi 11 Ultra's display.

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YUKI93, 08 Jul 2021If Xiaomi is going to put a secondary display at the back, ... moreBut then people would tell them that their under display camera is pointless because they can use the big enough rear display as a regular screen and use better rear cameras for selfies and video calls. This is what I've saying since nubia x. Dual display is better than all these gimmicks like flip cam, pop up, swivel cam, and under display camera.

    If Xiaomi is going to put a secondary display at the back, do it properly as ZTE did with the nubia Z20. That tiny screen next to the rear camera isn't going to excite me at all.

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      • Anonymous
      • Hka
      • 08 Jul 2021

      definitely mi 10t + mi 11 ultra

        AnonD-909757, 08 Jul 2021And what few phones without front facing camera (and still ... moreYeah, most will be happy video calling from that little 2nd screen, squinting their eyes. For people like you who don't have no use for it, devices with popup and 2nd screens exist. But everyone has their preferences and you can't expect it to apply for every person. Right now selfie camera in the front is the most commonly accepted preference among the people.

          aggelos0518, 08 Jul 2021In the subject of a zoom call, sometimes the presenters sha... moreNubia x/z20
          Vivo nex dual display

            AnonD-909757, 08 Jul 2021And what few phones without front facing camera (and still ... moreIn the subject of a zoom call, sometimes the presenters share the content on their screens, which wouldn't be possible to view easily on a 2-3 inch screen. To have no front camera we'd need a much bigger rear display with a much bigger cost.

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              • Shui8
              • KZK
              • 08 Jul 2021

              You have big enough screen on the rear for selfies with way better camera quality, why bother to put it on the front?

                The video shows flat screen, the renders shows curved screen. Which one is the real? The video or the renders?

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                  • rKH
                  • 08 Jul 2021

                  Now I am torn. I thought I would make the zte axon 30 under display phone as my next but this is looking good too with the thin bottom bezel. If the axon 30 doesn't have thin bottom bezel like this phone, I will buy this.

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                    • AnonD-909757
                    • pZV
                    • 08 Jul 2021

                    Akashraj, 08 Jul 2021Just because you don't see anyone using zoom or other ... moreAnd what few phones without front facing camera (and still a secondary display allowing to perfectly use the main camera on any Zoom calls) would make it so bad for them that it is needed to be used as an argument against it?

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                      • Anonymous
                      • YUU
                      • 08 Jul 2021

                      I still prefer pop-up camera or flip one like Asis Zenfone. Not a fan of punch hole, front camera or notch camera.

                        AnonD-909757, 08 Jul 20211: I've never seen anyone or meet anyone who actually ... moreJust because you don't see anyone using zoom or other video conference calls doesn't mean no one uses it. There are lakhs of people who are regularly doing video calls and conferences using their mobile phone.

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                          • Mike
                          • 6p1
                          • 08 Jul 2021

                          Hopefully that's a 1inch sensor!

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                            • AnonD-909757
                            • pZV
                            • 08 Jul 2021

                            Hi, 08 Jul 2021Front camera is for not important, make it invisible and pu... moreOr just don't put any front camera, so :
                            1: The display can beautifully cover the whole front without interruption or visible square.
                            2: Those who care about picture will have the much better main camera available for them and...
                            3: Since there is an Ultra-Wide on the back, which is also a commonly requested type of front camera, it is a win-win situation.
                            4: More Privacy.
                            5: Cost less.

                            Why "hide" it and have all the cons when just not putting any would be better?

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                              • AnonD-909757
                              • pZV
                              • 08 Jul 2021

                              Anonymous, 08 Jul 2021People like us who work need to use ZOOM from time to time.... more1: I've never seen anyone or meet anyone who actually do audio or video conference for their job, including during the pandemic, it is much less common than people make it appear, the exact same about those trying to justify the removal of the 3.5mm Jack by saying that people use wireless earstuffs, which I've seen like maybe 5 times in total and much more with wires.

                              2: Audio is more than enough, the pandemic didn't instantly make regular phone calls impossible.

                              3: Many people are actually annoyed by those video conference and some try the best they can to use fake camera.

                              4: If you really want to see someone and consider the second display on the back to not be enough, why would you consider a phone screen to be enough to begin with when there are tablets (many of which have 4G connectivity now) and computers, including many companies providing work laptops?

                              5: Many big company are subject to industrial spying, and cameras on a device that is linked to all sort of wireless networks including long range ones and have a non-hidable constantly facing the user's face is a more serious issue than the lack of front camera will ever be for any jobs.

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                                • AnonD-909757
                                • pZV
                                • 08 Jul 2021

                                GAMIRSFM, 08 Jul 2021No video chat is a gimmik? Have you been living under a roc... more1 :I don't do video calls.
                                2: If I had to do it, I'll rather use a tablet or a computer, but not a smartphone.
                                3: Many people still don't care about those.
                                4: It is obvious that what I called gimmicks was the filters and stuffs like it.

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                                  • pZV
                                  • 08 Jul 2021

                                  Anonymous, 07 Jul 2021Samsung , BBK , Xiaomi engineers are not as smart as you M... moreWhat is the comparison between the smartphone industry not giving a damn about its customers and only caring about trending features, and the talent of their engineers?
                                  None, you just tried to find a reason to be mean.
                                  I never claimed to be better than any engineer, I only said that brands don't care about customers AND that I am certainly better at those than you, considering the blatant stupidities that doesn't actually match the real world you wrote here.

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                                    • AnonD-909757
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                                    • 08 Jul 2021

                                    Anonymous, 07 Jul 2021Cries in missing IP rating and fall damageLaugh in phones with pop up camera actually having less reports per percentage of being killed by water than IP67/68 phones, the almost hard to find number of reports of broken pop up, and the still common broken display for the same phone.

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                                      • AnonD-909757
                                      • pZV
                                      • 08 Jul 2021

                                      Anonymous, 07 Jul 2021Pop up front camera. - more space required. - impossi... moreBS, the Poco F2 Pro is a great example of that, not only it has a pop up, it also has the WORLD LARGEST cooling chamber of any phone when it was release, quad camera, basically all features including 5G and its space taking antennas, 3.5mm Jack and IR Blaster, yet, it has a great body volume to battery capacity ratio, beating many other phones who have far less features.

                                      BS again, the Poco F2 Pro has IP53 rating, and there are designs allowing to make it TOTALLY WATERPROOF, IP67/68 is overrated and DOES NOT prevent phones from dying from liquid exposure, and no brands cover water damage anyway.

                                      And another lie here, the Poco F2 Pro is among the cheapest smartphone with a SD865 and parts of the cheapest sub 200$/€ phone have a pop up camera.

                                      Why do you think they all ditched the 3.5mm Jack despite NO drawback a massive demand and a lot of people requiring it, or why they now go crazy on 8Mp Ultra-Wide, or have the 2Mp Depth + Macro useless combo?
                                      Pointing at "X brand did that" is a totally bad argument, they are doing total nonsense and everyone know it.

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                                        • AnonD-909757
                                        • pZV
                                        • 08 Jul 2021

                                        Anonymous, 07 Jul 2021I doubt people that have UWA + Wide + 2x/3x/4x/5x/10x combo... moreAs much as I prefer a Telephoto over an Ultra-Wide, and has more often use of magnification than a wider angle, the Ultra-Wide is still generally preferred by most people over the Telephoto.
                                        And yes, I know about the real zoom lenses.

                                        Don't underestimate the cost of curved edge display, punch holes who require special cable re-routing, and underdisplay camera whose cost isn't even starting to be understood yet.
                                        Besides, the second display is already here anyway, better make good use of it.
                                        Because people complain about bezels like you complain about a second display on the back and the pop up.
                                        And others want REAL fulldisplay, plus many want privacy.