Weekly poll results: the Sony Xperia Pro-I is well received, but not everyone needs a professional phone

07 November 2021
But if you do need one, there aren't many options, especially for photos and videos.

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  • Anonymous
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  • 08 Nov 2021

ABF Media, 08 Nov 2021You Sony people are hilarious man... On one end you guys s... moreXperia pro should atleast have a 2" sensor to justify that price.
Sensors close to 1" are already available on the market. Sony doesn't even use the whole sensor effectively reducing the size to 1/1.33" which is the same as Samsung gn1 or hm3 or the omnivision sensor on Mi 10 ultra

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    • Anonymous
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    • 08 Nov 2021

    famakate, 08 Nov 2021you forgot the faster usbc, 4k display, front firing speake... moreJust having front firing speakers aren't good enough if the sound isn't that good or full as an iPhone or rog or others.
    MI 11 Ultra... 512gb/12gb is available for 200 euros more.
    No shady import, everything is smooth if you buy from sites recommended by kimovil.
    Only shady import you get are from shady sites

      alski10, 08 Nov 2021haha up to 32% of the surveyed people will buy this $1800 p... morelets not forget the other groups. I voted for "maybe" and the only thing keeping me from buying the xperia 1iii is this phone. I will wait till it's out and than it's gonna be one of these.

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        • Anonymous
        • rN7
        • 08 Nov 2021

        SEUL8TR, 08 Nov 2021Everything Sony makes, they focus on neutral off everything. No. Colors is the only thing thats true for

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          • Anonymous
          • rN7
          • 08 Nov 2021

          Anonymous, 07 Nov 2021I see people asking for a Pro-A. With some hardware from ... moreAnd most of them were severely over priced as well. Sony never learns.
          And it could happen. Especially at the prices these lacking phones are already sold at.

            SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021"You never owned the MI 11 Ultra. I know your post his... moreYou Sony people are hilarious man...
            On one end you guys say that no smartphone can replace a mirrorless camera basically saying that professionals wouldn't use them for professional purposes.
            Yet on the other hand you shamelessly promote Xperia pro as a photographer's tool when clearly no professional would be stoop this low.

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              • King Mo
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              • 08 Nov 2021

              SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021"You never owned the MI 11 Ultra. I know your post his... moreLet’s review a typical workflow process of a photographer:

              1)Set up the camera and capture images / video.
              2)Transfer media to a computer with sufficient memory and processing power to handle high-resolution images and video.
              3)Import media into a photo / video application.
              4)Organize and sort media.
              5)Post-process media.
              6)Export media.
              7)Back up.
              8)Print / display / publish media to the web.

              The problem is not just with the number of steps, but also with the complexity of each one. The first step of setting up the camera and capturing images / video by itself can take many hours of learning. The same goes with importing, organizing, post-processing, backing up and even exporting!

              Now compare and contrast that to capturing images with a smartphone:

              1)Capture images or video with a single button.
              2)Post-process the media using built-in or third party apps.
              3)Publish the media.

              Anyone can do it. The best part is – there is practically no learning curve. Everything is touch-friendly and the results are instant. All images are backed up to the cloud automatically, so you don’t lose anything in case you lose your device.

              There is nothing wrong with geeking out about cameras, lenses and all the amazing technology. Many of us are hobbyists and truly enjoy using the best tools (or should we say “toys”?) we can afford. But that’s not what moves the camera market. A typical consumer has already moved away from point-and-shoot cameras, and many are leaving their large cameras at home in favor of a smartphone.

              Big Cameras = Big Problems

              I have already pointed out one of the biggest issues with digital cameras today – it is their complexity.
              It is clear that the last few years have given us big advancements in camera technology. We have seen huge leaps in image resolution. Thanks to all the CMOS sensor advancements, we now have cameras that can produce amazing dynamic range and very little noise, even when shooting in extremely dark environments. We have specialized cameras with insanely fast autofocus systems, 10+ FPS continuous shooting speeds and huge buffers that can fit hundreds of images. Full-frame cameras are cheaper than ever, and the number of camera options is abundant – both used and brand new. We now have insanely capable mirrorless cameras, with lenses that can out-resolve their DSLR counterparts. Without a doubt, this all sounds amazing and it really is!

              However, if we look from the standpoint of someone just starting out in photography, these advantages can quickly turn into a messy list of problems.

              Choosing a camera system is a huge task in itself. One has to go through so many different types of criteria, including: camera brand, resolution, sensor size, autofocus system, shooting speed, video features, ergonomics, build quality, weather sealing, price, weight, so on and so forth. Lenses are a whole different ballgame: focal length, zoom vs prime, sharpness, weight, quality, native vs third party, focus speed, price, weight, etc. Add all the must-have accessories like straps, memory cards and support options, and things get progressively more complex.

              But that’s just the start of the problem. Once beginners get their first camera system, they quickly realize that their expenses and time commitment do not stop there. All of a sudden, their computers are not fast enough to post-process those high-resolution images and video. Their storage is insufficient. Their computer screens that used to handle web browsing and occasional gaming just fine, are no longer good enough – they now need IPS monitors and screen calibration tools for a consistent editing experience.

              Then, as they take pictures, they realize that their cameras and lenses are not as perfect as they thought they would be. They spent thousands of dollars, only to find out that their camera autofocus system is out of whack, their lenses are not good enough to consistently produce sharp images. They find out about all the lens aberrations, field curvature and focus shift issues, lens decentering and other optical problems. DSLR shooters have to learn about lens calibration issues, while mirrorless shooters come across brand new problems related to things like red dot flares and phase-detection striping / banding issues.

              And I haven’t even gotten to post-processing, storage and backups. I could go on and on…but you get the point. Digital photography has gotten way too complex for most people. Even seasoned photographers are getting tired of all the things they have to keep up with in order to stay relevant and competitive.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 08 Nov 2021

                SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021I don't think Sony will ever use a QB sensor tbh. Thei... moreSo Quad Bayer sensors aren't real cameras? It's tough to take a you seriously after that comment.
                Quad Bayer sensors have their advantages and and disadvantages.
                The best cameras on smartphone currently are all Quad Bayers

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                  • Anonymous
                  • gq3
                  • 08 Nov 2021

                  famakate, 08 Nov 2021you forgot the faster usbc, 4k display, front firing speake... moreThat 4k display isn't better than the MI 11 Ultra.
                  Just having higher resolution isn't enough, it can't even meet hdr600 standards properly

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 08 Nov 2021

                    SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021"You never owned the MI 11 Ultra. I know your post his... moreMaybe you need an article from professionals over at DxOMark...

                    dxomark.com/smartphones-vs-cameras-closing-the-gap-on-image-quality/

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                      • 08 Nov 2021

                      SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021"You never owned the MI 11 Ultra. I know your post his... moreThe smartphones are quickly taking over the camera world, and sadly, there is no stopping it now.
                      I would say that it is already too late for most camera manufacturers to be able to offer a product that a typical consumer would want.

                      Their only hope for the future is to retain their existing customer base. With all the technological advancements, artificial intelligence and cloud computing, the digital camera market is sadly going to continue to decline for non-professionals.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • ScY
                        • 08 Nov 2021

                        SEUL8TR, 08 Nov 2021Everything Sony makes, they focus on neutral off everything. Quad Bayer is snake oil marketing trick.
                        It doesn't come with better details or hdr than RGB.

                        The only thing it does is it allows companies to advertise ridiculously high MP count that don't translate to much advantage.

                        Look at Apple.
                        Their phones has one of the best HDR implementations without that quad Bayer marketing scheme.

                        Bigger individual pixels are always better than more pixels on the same sensor size.

                          haha up to 32% of the surveyed people will buy this $1800 phone. The gsmarena polls are always so funny

                            SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021I don't think Sony will ever use a QB sensor tbh. Thei... moreI can believe that. Even former Nokia PureView engineer, Juha Alakarhu, said that the Quad Bayer sensor gives an advantage for larger effective pixel size but sacrifices detail purity*.

                            *https://twitter.com/jalakarhu/status/1021695857786331136?lang=en

                              Nick Tegrataker, 08 Nov 2021"My mirroless camera is collecting dust since the past... moreMost people don't want to go through heavy editing of RAW files with mirrorless cameras. They just want a good point and shoot.
                              Most flagship cameras in 2021 do that job very well.
                              They need not carry around extra bulk of all the lenses that come with a mirrorless camera.

                              Maybe this guy was never using mirrorless for any professional work, just point and shoot purposes, which is lame in the first place to begin with.

                                SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021I don't think Sony will ever use a QB sensor tbh. Thei... moreEverything Sony makes, they focus on neutral off everything.

                                  SuuperBaka, 08 Nov 2021"You never owned the MI 11 Ultra. I know your post his... moreCalling out Sony fannboys for their lies about Xperia camera being best and all others being crap isn't exactly bashing. It's offering Sony Boyz a mirror.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 08 Nov 2021

                                    Anonymous, 08 Nov 2021this poll confirms what pro is for, at least as per sony, t... moreNice to see companies not catering to the market segment that already has 488346279294933924764229 boring slabs to choose from. Hope this does well with their target market.

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                                      • Harshan
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                                      • 08 Nov 2021

                                      Sony just advertised abt it's pro camera, but it's other hardware and software combination are also pro, it's faster in app opening than Asus rog, its ui is cleaner than oxygen os, it has 4k display, it's speaker is enhanced, it's camera are pro as usual.

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                                        • dPU
                                        • 08 Nov 2021

                                        Nick Tegrataker, 08 Nov 2021"My mirroless camera is collecting dust since the past... moreTheoretically, it is the closest. But still far, far away.

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