Samsung launches Expert RAW camera app for Galaxy S21 Ultra

24 November 2021
It comes with 16-bit DNG RAW support with embedded HDR processing on all cameras.

Sort by:

Anonymous, 24 Nov 2021Processed raw, not real raw. Pixel's HDR+ RAW does not have any post-processing baked in.

    AnonD-762416, 24 Nov 2021Someone's desperately trying to find something to whin... moreI agree. It's a beta feature, so it's quite natural that it's rolled out in a way that it will not directly affect the functionality or stability of the stock camera app.

    With that said, it would make a lot more sense for Samsung to port the entire set of features into the app as soon as the testing phase is over.

      SuuperBaka, 24 Nov 2021"The 108MP sensor is working like a multi sub-pixel se... moreBinning on QB sensors is done at the sensor level, right when the pixels are read out.

        Anonymous, 24 Nov 2021You can by software disable the phase detection AF and rely... moreFun fact - disabling PDAF in software doesn't magically turn those half-shielded pixels that can be only used for detecting phase differences into regular pixels. So the information still needs to be interpolated from neighboring pixels, which will cause the banding.

        "Panasonic S1 uses imx410"
        Source, please. As always.

          Anonymous, 24 Nov 2021"Then there's optical image stabilization. Only t... more"Not helps a bit"
          Given how much less effective OIS generally was on a phone camera back in 2013 (Think about it, it's literally an 8-year-old article - things have changed a lot since then) and how G2 set the shutter speed way too long in low light which resulted in blurred shots in their studio, I don't disagree with the conclusion GSMArena made AT THAT TIME through their own testing.

          "OIS is useless for video"
          Hybrid stabilisation is always superior to pure EIS - there are fewer pixels to be wasted to achieve the same level of stabilisation since OIS stabilises the footage to some extent before EIS does its job by cropping each frame. This is one of the reasons why Google decided to use OIS on Pixel 2 even if it meant that a smaller sensor had to be used.

            • F
            • AnonF-1013367
            • 3bm
            • 25 Nov 2021

            SuuperBaka, 25 Nov 2021"Technically it is done by the hardware, but does it m... moreI know the disadvantages, can you tell be about the adventages?

              AnonD-762416, 25 Nov 2021Technically it is done by the hardware, but does it matter?... more"Technically it is done by the hardware, but does it matter?"

              Yes, it does matter, if it's done by software then a RAW file would only be 108MP since that's what the sensor captures before binning.

              "It's binning the subpixels to work as the 12MP sensor it's designed to mimic."

              I know how binning works, It has its advantages and disadvantages.

                • j
                • jason
                • 0RL
                • 25 Nov 2021

                Mapantz, 24 Nov 2021What is disappointing about this app is that 'RAW'... morea lot of phone RAW files look absolute garbage when taken, even trying to edit them in lightroom shows off all the terrible compression and all the other lack of editing that takes place in the phone, you can never replicate the jpeg quality on the RAW file in editing software

                  • D
                  • AnonD-762416
                  • Sec
                  • 25 Nov 2021

                  Anonymous, 24 Nov 2021This will be Samsung's "Photo Pro". There... moreThat is a lie. This is a beta and that's already been said in South Korea where the beta is running. The fact that the people translating the news to English is omitting this isn't Samsung's problem.

                    • D
                    • AnonD-762416
                    • Sec
                    • 25 Nov 2021

                    SuuperBaka, 24 Nov 2021"The 108MP sensor is working like a multi sub-pixel se... moreTechnically it is done by the hardware, but does it matter? It's binning the subpixels to work as the 12MP sensor it's designed to mimic. The 108MP option is just an option you get to take less accurate high resolution photos with, if that's your thing.

                      • C
                      • Camera shy
                      • StU
                      • 25 Nov 2021

                      Absolutely loving this app really best thing that's made me want to go out and shoot RAW again love how I press Lr button and takes me straight to editing. I just love this app so much Well done Samsung for giving me. What I've been waiting for. Looking forward to taking some fall shots tomorrow with the UW option tested the 10x and Wow again so clear even for lowlight handheld test shot I am a believer. Using the APK as not in my GS atm but running 12 and Ui4.0 from the beta program waiting for 12

                        • ?
                        • Anonymous
                        • Lj$
                        • 24 Nov 2021

                        AnonD-762416, 24 Nov 2021Someone's desperately trying to find something to whin... moreThis will be Samsung's "Photo Pro".
                        There will be two apps like 1ii.

                        If you want to add stuff to an app that already exists, you do not need to create another app just to test functions to later transfer to the other app.

                        2021 and people cant understand simple article.

                          AnonD-762416, 24 Nov 2021Not necessarily. The 108MP sensor is working like a multi s... more"The 108MP sensor is working like a multi sub-pixel sensor, combining light from each sub-sub pixel to create on "normal sizes" 12MP sensor."

                          Ya but this isn't done on the hardware level is it? It would be done through software and if you shoot RAW then it should only shoot at the 108MP, unless I'm confusing something about the QB sensor

                            • D
                            • AnonD-762416
                            • Sec
                            • 24 Nov 2021

                            Anonymous, 24 Nov 2021Yes. It is waste of space. But many websites have articl... moreSomeone's desperately trying to find something to whine about.
                            This beta is only available on some phones in a handful countries. So, having it in a separate app is pretty essential for it to work as a beta.

                              • ?
                              • Anonymous
                              • Lj$
                              • 24 Nov 2021

                              I do not understand why many phones with 3-4 cameras just have raw for the wide.

                                • D
                                • AnonD-762416
                                • Sec
                                • 24 Nov 2021

                                SuuperBaka, 24 Nov 2021108MP would be the RAW, unless I'm mixing something upNot necessarily. The 108MP sensor is working like a multi sub-pixel sensor, combining light from each sub-sub pixel to create on "normal sizes" 12MP sensor.

                                  • D
                                  • AnonD-762416
                                  • Sec
                                  • 24 Nov 2021

                                  Mapantz, 24 Nov 2021I'm not going to spam any links here, but you can down... moreIf you'd scrolled through the story you would have seen the link in the story....

                                    • ?
                                    • Anonymous
                                    • gBV
                                    • 24 Nov 2021

                                    Mapantz, 24 Nov 2021But it's not true RAW. The data is still getting heavi... moreYou can use 3rd party apps for single frame dng files, though 3rd party apps for the Pixel 6 Pro can save neither 16mm nor 103mm dng files and Lightroom doesn't have a color profile for the Pixel 6 Pro.

                                      I'm not going to spam any links here, but you can download ExpertRaw apk already.

                                        • ?
                                        • Anonymous
                                        • IJK
                                        • 24 Nov 2021

                                        That's awesome! Especially the multi frame for hdr. That's a feature long since missing with raw!

                                          3 of 6