The Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 is the first 5nm chipset for Windows-on-ARM laptops, 7c+ Gen 3 tags along
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Z, 02 Dec 2021Yeah basically apple fanboys set up their videos in such a ... moreExplain to me how.
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zodiacfml, 02 Dec 2021Dead on announcement. the old Apple M1 will trash this whil... moreWhy are you so sure?
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Hamburger, 02 Dec 2021M1 Max uses integrated graphics, the MSI has dedicated grap... moreIt only came out on top where it had the RAM advantage. And again: A Ryzen 5900 HX would be more efficient and performant than the Intel in this comparison.
Neither you have any clue about how they tested it. There are no details givem about driver versions, cooling settings and so on. From a hardware perspective, the m1 max doesnt deliver more raw performance. It's all software sided optimization of certain workloads, combined with an awful anti consumer chip design. Good luck if you want to upgrade ram or ssd on that thing.
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Hamburger, 02 Dec 2021Have you even checked reviews and benchmarks? The M1 Max g... moreI have checked unbiased reviews and you have got to be frigging kidding me if you think it's neck and neck with a 3080. It's neck and neck with integrated Intel graphics or budget AMD mobile graphics.
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Hamburger, 02 Dec 2021Have you even checked reviews and benchmarks? The M1 Max g... moreYeah i compared 3d mark wild life extreme, native. And it was somewhere around 120 on m1 max vs 180 fps on rtx 3080 mobile. No contest. And the new gpus and cpus from amd / intel / nvidia are just around the corner.
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Dead on announcement. the old Apple M1 will trash this while costing less.
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YUKI93, 02 Dec 2021Lol, Premiere Pro for macOS has a completely different user... moreAlso to add from my earlier reply to you:
Premiere Pro on the MSI laptop runs native x86 codes and is compiled in 64bits
Premiere Pro on the mac runs native M1 codes
I'm not sure what you mean by "that explains", there's no disadvantage for both platforms.
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Kangal, 02 Dec 2021This. I heard other sites claiming the configurations diff... moreGeekbench isn't reliable. They even change internal ratings during the same version. And guess towards which cpus they are optimizing their scoring system?
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Hamburger, 02 Dec 2021Premiere Pro does have optimised drivers for CUDA cores. ... moreSuddenly everyone is a creator. What about 7zip times and audio converting, CAD, modelling workloads? Thats where the m1 max looses big time because it's not optimized.
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AnonD-762416, 02 Dec 2021This is comparing with LAPTOP GPUs. You know, like the head... moreHave you even checked reviews and benchmarks? The M1 Max graphics is pretty much neck to neck with mobile RTX3080. AMD does not have anything that can touch what nVidia offers.
And the amazing thing here is that the M1 Max is integrated graphics, sucks very little power achieving such performance.
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AnonF-1006353, 02 Dec 2021Again, there's just no point in comparing 32 vs 64GB R... morePremiere Pro does have optimised drivers for CUDA cores.
Again, you are showing us laughable comments like as if you know... Hahahahahaha
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AnonF-1006353, 02 Dec 2021Yeah great: They compared it with i-9 11900/11800H intel no... moreM1 Max uses integrated graphics, the MSI has dedicated graphics. And the mac came out top.
And with so many "probably" used, you haven't the slightest clue. So stop showing your ignorance here pretending to know anything at all.
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YUKI93, 02 Dec 2021Lol, Premiere Pro for macOS has a completely different user... moreSo Premiere Pro works faster on a M1 Max, and you would rather pick Premiere Pro runs slower on Intel or AMD for similar money? DPreview has it compared against MSI with discrete graphics. Why does anyone want to spend that kind of money for a slower machine?
User experience??? I just want to get the work done ASAP!
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Snapdragon-8cx-Gen-3-launched-First-5-nm-Windows-PC-SoC-with-four-Cortex-X1-cores-at-3-GHz-6-nm-Snapdragon-7c-Gen-3-announced-too.582290.0.html
"This time, however, we are getting to know that the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 will offer four Cortex-X1 Prime cores clocked at 2.995 GHz and four Cortex-A78 cores at 2.4 GHz under load."
So, Snapdragon has skipped using the X2 Cores for now, and thus, hasn't moved to the ARM Armv9 Architecture for now. So, regardless of how good the 8cx Gen 3 is, the Gen2, if it uses the Armv9 Architecture, can do even better.
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Anonymous, 02 Dec 20218cx = 4(X1) @3.0GHz + 4(A78) @2.4Ghz
7c+ Gen 3 = 4(A78) ... moreThis.
I heard other sites claiming the configurations differently, such as:
8cx Gen3: 2.95GHz A78 + 2.35GHz A78
7cx Gen3: 2.45GHz A76 + 1.50GHz A55
...but they don't seem that realistic to me.
We also have some GeekBench 5 scores leaked for them:
7c Gen1: 500 single, 1600 multi
7c Gen2: 600 single, 1800 multi
7c Gen3: 800 single, 2600 multi (leaked)
8cx Gen1: 600 single, 2800 multi
8cx Gen2: 700 single, 3200 multi
8cx Gen3: 1000 single, 4900 multi (leaked)
Intel i5-1130G7: 1200 single, 4500 multi
Apple M1: 1400 single, 4700 multi (emulating/virtualising Windows)
Apple M1: 1600 single, 7400 multi
Apple M1 Pro: 1800 single - 10,000 multi
Apple M1 Max: 1800 single - 13,000 multi
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AnonF-1006353, 02 Dec 2021Again, there's just no point in comparing 32 vs 64GB R... moreCustom build with i9 cores
Some use stainless steel fans
Some use titanium or copper blades Some us liquid nitrogen too cool the cpu gpu down.
Depends on your budget
Standard basic performance or super or extremely........ materials
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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Dec 2021"Apple's GPU is pretty terrible"
That'... moreApple needs to use better cooling with double Cooper cooling chamber like sony uses on third pro phones.
No manufacturers are gonna spend £70 for liquid nitrogen or copper cooling.
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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Dec 2021"Apple's GPU is pretty terrible" That'... moreThis is comparing with LAPTOP GPUs. You know, like the headline says. On laptops you're not limited to processors 100% optimized for smartphones. Look at any honest comparison of mobile GPUs from AMD/Nvidia and you'll see the Apple processor is dwarfed by the performance of the two big ones. Arguing that the big ones use more power is void as long as Apple is stuck with not being able to scale their stuff to compete with big boy stuff.
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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Dec 2021"Apple's GPU is pretty terrible"
That'... moreApple needs to use better cooling with double Cooper cooling chamber like sony uses on third pro phones.
No manufacturers are gonna spend £70 for liquid nitrogen or copper cooling.
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Nick Tegrataker, 02 Dec 2021The workload also involved RAW import and export test as we... moreAgain, there's just no point in comparing 32 vs 64GB RAM equipped machines. They could have easily upped the RAM in the Win notebooks.
They even mentioned "Once we move on to exports, where RAM once again plays a major role, there is absolutely no contest."
So does the Battery test in this regard. So does the puggybench.
In applications where HW acceleration is properly used and optimized, they had nothing left to say than:
"The Creator 17's Intel Core i9 CPU paired with some hardware acceleration from the NVIDIA RTX 3080 GPU consistently posts faster numbers than the Mac".
Now imagine the RTX 3080 mobile combined with an even better AMD 5900HX.
I get that the M1 Max is more battery efficient, nonetheless. Just not as extreme as they portray it with their ram neutered win notebooks. No wonder they have to keep the cpu/gpu load for longer and thus sucked even more battery.