Weekly poll results: flagship chipsets still matter, but most people don't need the latest one
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- Dick
- 0U7
- 28 Nov 2022
When you're using a droid it sure doesn't make much of a difference. All available chipsets are inferior to Apple's by a mile in terms of performance and power efficiency, as Qualcomm has kind of given up on trying to compete at all. With Samsung killing the Exynos, there aren't any other real choices out there, so there you go, inferior software which runs on inferior hardware, welcome to the android world.
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- Anonymous
- P@c
- 27 Nov 2022
this shows that people need good chips that last a year not replacing it every year
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- Gnusmas
- nrN
- 27 Nov 2022
jiyen235, 27 Nov 2022flagship chipsets aren't made for today, they're ... moreI would disagree, i have 3 y.o midranger and it's still going strong, working as fast as it was in the day 1.
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- Hemedans
- f0J
- 27 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2022Even today I would prefer the old SD845 to the current SD6x... moreCurrent Sd 778G is ahead of sd 845
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- Hemedans
- f0J
- 27 Nov 2022
An0n, 27 Nov 2022There you go forgetting about fabrication process again: si... moreAm not the guy who make 16nm claim but there are plenty of soc at that era which survive until today with same cores/gpu.
If you look at sd 636, 660, 665, 662 up to 680 its same soc with cortex A73 but built with different manufacturing process, because A73 was efficient even with 14nm provide enough perfomance while give good battery life.
Redmi note 7 had 108H endurance with 14nm sd 660,
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 27 Nov 2022
Samsung and Sony with custom 8g2 made at samsung semicon.
With some support to features 8g2 by Tsmc lacks.
8550 ab = 8g2 tsmc
8550 ac = 8g2 sammy semicon
8550ac = 8K@60 recording, screen 5K@240Hz etc
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- Anonymous
- pt8
- 27 Nov 2022
jiyen235, 27 Nov 2022flagship chipsets aren't made for today, they're ... moreI disagree with that statement - this is not a general rule.
I had the opposite experience with my Mix 2 and Note 5.
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- Anonymous
- pt8
- 27 Nov 2022
Even today I would prefer the old SD845 to the current SD6xx and 7xx.
Btw I have an old Mix 2 (SD835) on my desk (just for fun) - still works beautifully smooth (with better temperatures than my current SD gen 1).
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- jiyen235
- 6i$
- 27 Nov 2022
flagship chipsets aren't made for today, they're made for tomorrow. They're made to provide a snappy experience for years to come. A midrange chipset only does that for the first year. Of course, companies can and WILL slow down phones with updates but it's not the chipset's fault
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- Darknoor
- 6pF
- 27 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2022I buy flagship not for the cpu
But for the modem
In bad s... moreThat is actually a good point and one of my main reasons to get a flagship chip. But also to stay relevant after a few years.
Now, you should know that the phone itself can make a difference. Having good and several antennas help a lot.
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- An0n
- t@g
- 27 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 27 Nov 2022The guy said cortex A73, and i agree with him, Sd 820 used ... moreThere you go forgetting about fabrication process again: since when sd 835 used 16nm? It's already 10nm, that's why it's good! I also have poco f1 with sd 845, same 10nm, it's good until now, run much better than most 2x a7x soc except of course newest a78 like sd 765g, 778g, dimensity 1xxx. Thus: Fabrication. Process. Matters. 16nm nowadays is considered ancient, people deserve better than that.
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- mooox
- ucw
- 27 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2022Smartphones can't replace TVs. A 6.5" screen can&... moreMaybe not laptops, but TVs definitely.
You can bring a 6.5" phone around with you, but it's hard to use a 65" TV on the move. Media consumption is often essential in city transit where transit can be an hour or more.
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- mooox
- ucw
- 27 Nov 2022
NOK6600, 27 Nov 2022Why not make flagship camera + premium built pair with mid ... moreBecause the processor is not fast enough to process the amount of data generated per second from high-megapixel sensors at a rate that's non-perceptible.
I had a "flagship killer" mid-ranger with a "killer camera" some time back that I really wanted to like. for 2 days.
They never mentioned that the shutter lag of the phone was more than 1 second (photo taken 1 second after you press the shutter) if you use certain high res modes.
or that the phone jams up for a while after taking each "high resolution image".
or that the gallery filled with hundreds of high resolution images takes minutes to load. or that loading each full size image takes a couple of seconds.
or that the phone runs hot and starts lagging badly if you keep the camera app open for a long time.
or that if you want to share the photo by clicking on the share button, your phone is going to freeze for a couple of minutes.
or that loading photo editing software takes more than twice as much time as other flagship phones.
or that the USB ports are so slow that it takes a couple of hours to copy out a chunk of files/data/photos.
Most people think these are fine compromises, but I can assure you that I don't experience any of these on the flagship devices I use.
There are software tricks to make these feel better, but generally no, the overall experience would be shitty. While some people think that the end justifies the means, I strongly believe that for anything with a responsive user interface, the process matters a lot too.
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- Anonymous
- XS%
- 27 Nov 2022
AnonD-1037771, 27 Nov 2022Regular people will be satisfied with a mid-range phone of ... moreSmartphones can't replace TVs. A 6.5" screen can't replace a 65" one. Maybe for poor people it can work but most people would prefer a TV for media consumption.
And about smartphones replacing laptops, are you even serious? Try to write a 10 page document on a 6.5" screen. There's a reason why Google won't release full Chrome for phones. What's the point? Phones aren't meant for serious work.
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- mooox
- ucw
- 27 Nov 2022
AnonD-1037771, 27 Nov 2022Regular people will be satisfied with a mid-range phone of ... moreI'm sure most of the 80% of the people that are satisfied with a mid-ranger has never used a flagship device for an extended period of time (more than 12 months). I do not know of many people (if any) who used a flagship device for at least 12 months, then find that "mid-ranger" phones are sufficient.
If you're used to a flagship device, you WILL notice the lags that are apparent everywhere in a mid-ranger in daily use. I'd pay for a 3 year old flagship device like the S20 than for a brand new mid-ranger. I get much better performance and experience, all the time.
A few people I know who rave about their apple iPhones Pro Max, complain about how badly their large screen Samsung mid-ranger performed, and how the iPhones are much better/faster/etc. They are non-techies and can only express their experience, which generally is that mid-ranger phones have too much compromises to make it an enjoyable experience.
My conclusion tends towards that most of the people supporting mid-rangers tend to be slightly techy and poor, and cannot afford flagship devices. They will praise the heck out of mid-rangers because they want to feel good about it.
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- Anonymous
- XS%
- 27 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2022Not everyone wants poor build, tiamna screen, UI with ads, ... moreLol. iPhones are known for slow usb.
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- Anonymous
- Lkg
- 27 Nov 2022
AnonD-731363, 27 Nov 2022Since there is possibility that something like Xiaomi 12 no... moreNot everyone wants poor build, tiamna screen, UI with ads, slow usb and macro camera.
Paying $1400 for decent phone and keep it 6 years is much better deal than every year get redmi note.
Do this test, put €400 tag on iphone 14. Then let us know how many times (20, 30, 50x) they will be selling compared to crapmi note.
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- AnonD-1037771
- 0Ca
- 27 Nov 2022
Regular people will be satisfied with a mid-range phone of today. That's about 80% of them.
The other 20% are power users, gamers, people that want the best every year and fashion addicts. As a power user I will always choose the best high-end CPU, even if it's an older model like SnapDragon 865. It will perform better than any new mid-range CPU out there, the hardware is better, the quality build is better, the cameras are way better. The only advantage of new mid-range phones is maybe longer software support. But I can live without the latest version of Android no problem .
Also, don't forget that mid-range CPUs are just a subversion of the high-end CPUs that started everything. If people wouldn't develop high-end CPUs there wouldn't be any mid-range CPUs.
Those so called flagship killers (more like wannabes) are also using high-end CPUs.
Most of the hardware and software features that are on mid-range phones or flagship wannabes started as features developed for high-end flagships.
Today's smartphones are slowly replacing laptops and TVs. In the future people will want to do even more with them, requiring more performance, leading to development of better high-end CPUs, that after some years will be used in mid-range smartphones.
I'd choose the Note 20 Ultra 5G (Snapdragon model) or S20 Plus over any new mid-range phone of 2022.
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- Anonymous
- XUv
- 27 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2022I had a phone with 855 and i could not play Genshin Impact ... moreI buy flagship not for the cpu
But for the modem
In bad signal area, the flagship SOC perform way better.
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- Anonymous
- XUv
- 27 Nov 2022
NOK6600, 27 Nov 2022Why not make flagship camera + premium built pair with mid ... moreWelcome to vivo...
This is what vivo have been doing in the last 5 years