Japan and Netherlands are joining the US in chip restrictions on China

27 January 2023
Companies will be prevented from transferring lithography machines.

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  • Anonymous
  • XUv
  • 27 Jan 2023

Westener, 27 Jan 2023It doesn’t matter. Apple alone worth 5 times all the Chines... moreRight now china focus is car, aeroplane & train.
China NEV car is 80% of world NEV output
China's High speed train is also leading the industry
And aeroplane... The C919 will replace boing

Back to smartphone.
Ask Samsul how many phone they have in storage
Ask apple, how the western popogangan help them by spreading false info on china product

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    • AnonD-762416
    • Sec
    • 27 Jan 2023

    Sin, 27 Jan 2023Either way good strong healthy competition is good The big... moreExactly the reason there are restrictions. China isn't competing, they're stealing IP. Lithography IP is exceptionally valuable as it costs a fortune to develop and manufacture. China is free to compete as hard as they can, they just have to do it on the same level as the rest of the world.

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      • Sin
      • mVA
      • 27 Jan 2023

      Either way good strong healthy competition is good
      The big advantage here hopefully in theory anyway is

      The Chinese Vs the west being competitive in the market nether side will handle cap there own processors too squeeze more money out of the customers as the over side would just win the aims race by going all out or so I hope

      When western companies battle they price fix the market look at amd & Nvidia graphics cards
      Found they can sell them for 2x or 3x MSRP
      So yeah

      I want too see competitive pricing and production of cheaper stuff

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        • Sin
        • mVA
        • 27 Jan 2023

        In all honesty we have no chance of winning the chip war as the west overpriced everything

        The Chinese processor may be awful and horrible terrible so far but there better & better and hopefully they can produce them cheaper and manufacturers and make them cheaper

        But if they can make them cheap enough very cheap they will dominate dirt cheap Chinese smartphone aways temping and garbage processor easily forgiven if the smartphone has very high ram & storage amount

        The Chinese are going too win the technology race as long as they fight on pricing and production and not cutting edge technology as I think the west is probably too far ahead for them too catch up

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          • Anonymous
          • k0s
          • 27 Jan 2023

          Everyone with a brain knows what this means. More corporate espionage and technology theft from China now that they can’t do it as easily.

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            • Samsung user
            • wr3
            • 27 Jan 2023

            China should learn from South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong people, how to respect countries that once helped them becoming Industrial countries from being poor countries.

            China deserve this restriction just for not making good cooperation/relationship with the USA.

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              • Samsung user
              • wr3
              • 27 Jan 2023

              You are right, 27 Jan 2023I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung and Apple paid to h... moreThat still doesn't explain why the marketshare of chinese brands is collapsing.

              Chinese brand supporter could buy other chinese brand to defeat samsung/apple, but somehow the marketshare of samsung/apple is growing every year leaving chinese brand far behind.

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                • Samsung user
                • wr3
                • 27 Jan 2023

                rizki1, 27 Jan 2023Chinese phones are still leading in market share, if you co... more"IF YOU COMBINE THEM"

                Dude.. i dont know how to feel, because you just literally admit that the chinese brands is collapsing.

                So you need to combine hundred of random brands versus 2 brands only to feel better. If this comparation would make you happy with your inferior phone, then go ahead.

                Even the total marketshare of chinese brands is still smaller compared to total marketshare of non-chinese brand, you did forget to count nokia, sony, pixel, etc.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • tEZ
                  • 27 Jan 2023

                  TrainingAddict, 27 Jan 2023Remember that these are the values ​​that are important in ... morewell at least they legalized drug and sell fentanyl to their own people 💀

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 7L2
                    • 27 Jan 2023

                    Good...

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                      • Anonymous
                      • tEZ
                      • 27 Jan 2023

                      well what's you can says? ITS FREEDOM

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                        • Westener
                        • 01w
                        • 27 Jan 2023

                        rizki1, 27 Jan 2023Chinese phones are still leading in market share, if you co... moreIt doesn’t matter. Apple alone worth 5 times all the Chinese companies combined. Sooner or later google will cut access to GMS to those Chinese companies and they will reduced to small companies. India is planning to replace China in the lowest level of manufacturing and will hollow out China of million of works. China bit the hand that made it rich, now it will taste what it is having west against it.

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                          • Lilian
                          • Iks
                          • 27 Jan 2023

                          No doubts they will get their hands on the tech sooner or later, just like they had paid Chinese engineers steal tech from Tesla and Apple.

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                            • Observer1
                            • SHp
                            • 27 Jan 2023

                            Mobilemaster, 27 Jan 2023There is no democracy is Asia? I didn't know in South ... moreThat's correct but Asia has a population of around 4.75 billion (as of 2022). S. Korea 50 millions. and Japan 125 millions. Thanks for the comment.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • gDf
                              • 27 Jan 2023

                              Samsung user, 27 Jan 2023Good job, USA.👍 I hope in the future, no chinese brands ... morelet's see for how long japan, usa etc will survive without access to chinese market.

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                                • NoBot
                                • MB{
                                • 27 Jan 2023

                                Tricky situation, but i was China, i would feel prompted to develop my own chips. They wouldn't have to start from scratch. The far better solution would be true (fair) joint ventures, but that's s.th. China would have to develop that model first - almost from scratch ;-) But that would have a lot of potential in the end for sure.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • 7X4
                                  • 27 Jan 2023

                                  Time to stop providing raw materials on unfriendly countries. XD

                                    Ahh politics

                                    All I know is China isn't innocent

                                    And everything China isnt innocent of doing America is guilty of the same thing

                                    People say China is infringing on patents giving examples of Chinese brands .. but apple is doing this as well...

                                    They mention spying in China... But we have Google Facebook etc..

                                    They say China is totalitarian.... But American is similar they are just covert with it

                                    Only in democratic countries you have things like "shadow" banning where your not silenced directly

                                      Observer1, 27 Jan 2023China is a tricky country. There's no democracy in Asi... moreThere is no democracy is Asia? I didn't know in South Korea, or in Japan there is communism !

                                        Samsung user, 27 Jan 2023Huawei is dead, and will be followed by other chinese brand... moreChinese phones are still leading in market share, if you combine them. Try to count, Apple and Samsung if combined too may not be enough against China.