After iPhones, Indonesia also bans sales of Google Pixel phones

01 November 2024
The reason is the same – phones need to have 40% local content.

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  • 01 Nov 2024

going to force a mass-exodus of young people…

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    Bravosixgoingdark, 01 Nov 2024Wait till they bring out the landlines backNope. Samsung and many other brands are doing just fine. iPhone is way overrated anyway, Google Pixel is much better

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      • Anonymous
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      • 01 Nov 2024

      Hemedans, 01 Nov 2024If these companies use local material phone price would au... moreThis is not true
      Tell me why local material cheaper?
      What make them cheaper?
      Does locally made Japan car in Indonesia cheaper than in Japan?

      It's a blatant lie
      And that's only can trick highscholler like you

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        • Anonymous
        • XVE
        • 01 Nov 2024

        rRadD, 01 Nov 2024Indonesia should have their own mobile brand/s. LOLFirst Indonesia need smart people.
        If Indonesia only have average people than the product will be bad

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          • Anonymous
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          • 01 Nov 2024

          wong jowo, 01 Nov 2024sadly, among listed brand, only samsung that's not Chi... more
          I googled the subject it turn out Samsung is the brain behind this
          It seems to me at that time Samsung think apple, sony & htc will have problem making factory and Samsung will have majority of share in Indonesia.

            Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024As long as the trade/sales rules also valid for all 3rd par... moreTrue. But that's what makes the WTO so incompetent. Tell me with a straight face that something like this isn't against free trade. Just like with customs unions like the EU, the WTO seems perfectly fine with allowing completely anti-free-trade policies like this because they would otherwise have to take stringent action against a lot of countries. This is blatantly against the concept of free trade, and yet the WTO allows it, stabbing itself in the back yet again.

              Hemedans, 01 Nov 2024If these companies use local material phone price would au... moreExcept, 40% is a ridiculously high amount and it will hurt most brands in the short-term, while the possibility of benefitting from it in the long-term are dubious if you're not a market leader. Phones with parts made in Indonesia are cheaper to purchase in Indonesia, sure, but the current law makes it too risky for most companies to actually sell their products in the country. If anything, this is DISCOURAGING companies from actually investing resources into Indonesia's economy. Indonesia could be a massive manufacturing hub that rivals the likes of Thailand and Vietnam and possibly maybe even China and/or India in the future, but these politicians are actively hurting that dream and they don't even realise it.

              Oh, and also, because the upfront cost required to sell in Indonesia is huge, this will cause those who do sell to increase their prices at least temporarily. This is worsened by the uncertainty in whether they'll be able to sell enough units, and so they will increase prices to maximise profits because of not enough demand in the short-term. Long-term, if it works out, the prices should be lower (assuming there is enough competition — and I don't think there is), but if it doesn't work out, the company will almost certainly leave the Indonesian market entirely. That will further lessen competition, thus raising prices. Point is, if you want Indonesia to have lower prices and a better economy, don't impose ridiculous laws like this because they'll just drive companies away from your country.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 01 Nov 2024

                Don't block Samsung so it can take the market. Samsung is the king and the leader.

                  Is this a good idea for the country?

                    Darth Caesium, 01 Nov 2024Do you understand economics in any way? The benefit your co... moreIf these companies use local material phone price would automatically became cheaper thats why phone made in China are cheaper in China, phone made in India are cheaper in India etc. Someone already gave examples Other brands who follow this rule their phones are cheaper than Average world wide price.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 01 Nov 2024

                      As long as the trade/sales rules also valid for all 3rd parties and no discrimination between participant, it is not against WTO.

                      For example:

                      Country A requires phone manufacturer from China to follow rules A B C, otherwise sales ban = against WTO

                      Country A requires ALL phone manufacturer to follow rules A B C, otherwise sales ban = NOT against WTO

                      In this case, the minimum local parts requirement rules are valid for all brand, its just because of the popularity of iphone, international folks start to become aware of this rules. If Samsung, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Infinix, amd other brands can respect and follow the law in Indonesia, why not with companies like Apple/Google/Sony?

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                        Fufufafa, 01 Nov 2024Bruh.. I read your comment and at this point you're ju... moresadly, among listed brand, only samsung that's not Chinese brand. but you still buy old apple though. up to iphone 15.

                          1989, 01 Nov 2024Good. Nobody should be scammed into buying pixel phones for... moreexcatly! instead they should wait 2 months after launch and buy them for half off!

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                            Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024Raise tax to certain percentage = allowed Each product hav... morecould you be more specific, by quoting relevant wto rule?

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                              Bravosixgoingdark, 01 Nov 2024Wait till they bring out the landlines backNope, Chinese and Koreans phones are cheaper and better

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                                Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024Raise tax to certain percentage = allowed Each product hav... moreWell indonesia technically didn't ban the import of iPhone. Anyone could still import millions of iPhone to Indonesia if they want. So, its not against WTO.

                                  Sate, 01 Nov 2024Wow... So may economic expert in here. "Indonesian wi... moreIt's actual cheaper to produce phones locally, but many people overlook that. It's win win situation.

                                    Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024Raise tax to certain percentage = allowed Each product hav... more20% is Normal tax in many Countries am taking about 100% tax here, which make competing products almost Impossible to succeed.

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                                      • 01 Nov 2024

                                      thailand has 2-3x price for import auto and auto-companies build factories in thailand - indonesia is not first country who block global attacks an brasilia (and others) too make bans for it-companies ... about300mln population may made this bans for his market from global attacks

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                                        • 01 Nov 2024

                                        Such hyporcracy to where they allow starlink to operate which gives 0% in country value and stop some phones.

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