After iPhones, Indonesia also bans sales of Google Pixel phones
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- PaxLucis
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- 01 Nov 2024
Who cares about Indonesia anyway? They can stick with their cheap Chinese phones.
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- Hemedans
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- 01 Nov 2024
Darth Caesium, 01 Nov 2024Except, 40% is a ridiculously high amount and it will hurt ... moreThis law is from 2015, all Oems comply including Apple, and it's not hard to reach 40% if even software is included in that percentage, you can even include few bloats to reach quota. Those who embrace it wholeheartedly like Xiaomi now they produce phone cheaper and it's win-win for them.
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- Hemedans
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- 01 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024This is not true Tell me why local material cheaper? What... moreBecause they are subsidized and you don't deal with much agents and other 3rd parties, having many resources at same place is advantageous.
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- Marcusj3000
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- 01 Nov 2024
Pixels are not even officially sold in Indonesia. I don't even see the point and Google most definitely won't. SO many more OEM's will just leave you to the Chinese OEM's and your fate. I see another silk road participant being trapped soon.
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- 01 Nov 2024
Indonesia blocks sale of Google Pixel smartphones to force local investment ? GOODDD
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- 01 Nov 2024
Tarabyte, 01 Nov 2024excatly! instead they should wait 2 months after launch and... morePixel 9 pro for $500 now? Where?
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- 01 Nov 2024
Am going to miss Indonesian movies shot on iPhone and Pixels
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
going to force a mass-exodus of young people…
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- 01 Nov 2024
Bravosixgoingdark, 01 Nov 2024Wait till they bring out the landlines backNope. Samsung and many other brands are doing just fine. iPhone is way overrated anyway, Google Pixel is much better
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
Hemedans, 01 Nov 2024If these companies use local material phone price would au... moreThis is not true
Tell me why local material cheaper?
What make them cheaper?
Does locally made Japan car in Indonesia cheaper than in Japan?
It's a blatant lie
And that's only can trick highscholler like you
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
rRadD, 01 Nov 2024Indonesia should have their own mobile brand/s. LOLFirst Indonesia need smart people.
If Indonesia only have average people than the product will be bad
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
wong jowo, 01 Nov 2024sadly, among listed brand, only samsung that's not Chi... more
I googled the subject it turn out Samsung is the brain behind this
It seems to me at that time Samsung think apple, sony & htc will have problem making factory and Samsung will have majority of share in Indonesia.
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- Darth Caesium
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- 01 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 01 Nov 2024As long as the trade/sales rules also valid for all 3rd par... moreTrue. But that's what makes the WTO so incompetent. Tell me with a straight face that something like this isn't against free trade. Just like with customs unions like the EU, the WTO seems perfectly fine with allowing completely anti-free-trade policies like this because they would otherwise have to take stringent action against a lot of countries. This is blatantly against the concept of free trade, and yet the WTO allows it, stabbing itself in the back yet again.
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- 01 Nov 2024
Hemedans, 01 Nov 2024If these companies use local material phone price would au... moreExcept, 40% is a ridiculously high amount and it will hurt most brands in the short-term, while the possibility of benefitting from it in the long-term are dubious if you're not a market leader. Phones with parts made in Indonesia are cheaper to purchase in Indonesia, sure, but the current law makes it too risky for most companies to actually sell their products in the country. If anything, this is DISCOURAGING companies from actually investing resources into Indonesia's economy. Indonesia could be a massive manufacturing hub that rivals the likes of Thailand and Vietnam and possibly maybe even China and/or India in the future, but these politicians are actively hurting that dream and they don't even realise it.
Oh, and also, because the upfront cost required to sell in Indonesia is huge, this will cause those who do sell to increase their prices at least temporarily. This is worsened by the uncertainty in whether they'll be able to sell enough units, and so they will increase prices to maximise profits because of not enough demand in the short-term. Long-term, if it works out, the prices should be lower (assuming there is enough competition — and I don't think there is), but if it doesn't work out, the company will almost certainly leave the Indonesian market entirely. That will further lessen competition, thus raising prices. Point is, if you want Indonesia to have lower prices and a better economy, don't impose ridiculous laws like this because they'll just drive companies away from your country.
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
Don't block Samsung so it can take the market. Samsung is the king and the leader.
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- Hemedans
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- 01 Nov 2024
Darth Caesium, 01 Nov 2024Do you understand economics in any way? The benefit your co... moreIf these companies use local material phone price would automatically became cheaper thats why phone made in China are cheaper in China, phone made in India are cheaper in India etc. Someone already gave examples Other brands who follow this rule their phones are cheaper than Average world wide price.
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Nov 2024
As long as the trade/sales rules also valid for all 3rd parties and no discrimination between participant, it is not against WTO.
For example:
Country A requires phone manufacturer from China to follow rules A B C, otherwise sales ban = against WTO
Country A requires ALL phone manufacturer to follow rules A B C, otherwise sales ban = NOT against WTO
In this case, the minimum local parts requirement rules are valid for all brand, its just because of the popularity of iphone, international folks start to become aware of this rules. If Samsung, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Infinix, amd other brands can respect and follow the law in Indonesia, why not with companies like Apple/Google/Sony?
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- 01 Nov 2024
Fufufafa, 01 Nov 2024Bruh.. I read your comment and at this point you're ju... moresadly, among listed brand, only samsung that's not Chinese brand. but you still buy old apple though. up to iphone 15.