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3.5mm jack
B}Z
09 Mar 2023

No 3.5mm jack is a big no

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Carol
mek
09 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 08 Mar 2023Again, WOW, you do the same thing to defend, champion Nokia... moreAgain wow...my.. GSMarena specs sheet, is more often then not false, hack they even say themselves that this and that might not be true. I am now to lazy to seach for nothing that interests me, but if you say so, well i believe you, the other two are launching with android 13. I compared nokia with chinaware, because everybody does it here, especially those who complain about the price. You do it too, so why the sudden change of mind? You realised that it ain't working so now you're trying to make it sound as if you would use a more respectfull brand? Just saying. I my self could not care less about chinese brands when i am on the market searching for the next device. But you will not find a device cheaper then nokia that's not chinaware, or does not compromise in other criterias, so why complaining?
I find the x10, x20 and xr20 to still be relevant to buy now, they are on android 13 and as far as i know, they are too in the 3 3 3 program, so they should receive the 14. Well, in theory...or maybe not. Yeah, anyway....
By G22 hardware, i mean the fact that is easily repairable and does not look like crapp. I would like that on x30, but well, it is a start and the device sounds more like something they released to test the "waters" for acceptance, mostly like when their first android came out, the nokia 6. So they might release something better with those implementations.
I do not find it difficult to answer to you, i find it tiresome...
You make a big confusion between exploting somebody and asking for a price the company see fit, so that it's costs for production, transport, support, wage and others to be covered while being able to further develop. I have already said that they are not forcing nobody to buy anything from them. The fact that they cannot affort to sell cheaper, does not suddently make them slave owners. If there is something absurd in this discution, it is you accusing them of exploiting customers, whatever that supposed to mean.
Where do you get your information from anyway? Conspiracytheory dot com? Hmd never bought nokia, nokia was never owned by microsoft, microsoft bought only the devices devision from them and the right to use Lumia name on their new to come devices together with nokia factories that were in china. Factories that afterwards were sold by MS to Foxconn, their is no coincidence that Foxconn had a sudden knowledge on how to properly build mobile devices. NOKIA and hmd are two different companies, nokia holding for about 10% shares in hmd (well status from 3 years ago). hmd is Licensing Nokia Name and patents for 10 years, in 2027 the license should expire if NOKIA does not want to license their name to hmd any further, i doubt that tough.
Nokia is now full on enterprise developement, drons, networks and network devices and was never bankrupt, as many of you like to think. They are actually doing great after they sold the mobile devision to microsoft. Not that i support what they did back then, but was a necessary evil needed to be done to keep the company alive, after microsoft made sure that the company's devices devision is cheap on sale.
So i do not know what you "google" there, but for sure you find only the Incorrect information. So, i would say that at the moment, you have more to learn from me than i can learn from you 😉.

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Anonymous
uwX
08 Mar 2023

Carol, 08 Mar 2023I do not know what you're talking about, G400 is more ... moreAgain, WOW, you do the same thing to defend, champion Nokia. You always take opportunity by taking Chinese mobiles into consideration to defend Nokia devices. For God's sake stop comparing Nokia with Chinese counterparts to defend everything they do. You can't escape by saying that you don't know things which makes your argument unhealthy and absurd. You may refer GSMarena for the specs of the said devices Nokia C22 and C32 in my last message or you may check Nokia's website for clarity. Hope you are aware that you are writing in a public opinion column. Our whole world reads our messages.

First of all, I am not speaking for myself but, for the sake of our world. I am not only a patriot of my country but, a patriot of our Globe. For your information, I am capable enough to buy any device in the market including that of Apple's. But, I will not waste my money even in my dreams on these fancy gadgets. My computer can do my jobs, better than these fancy gadgets. For me, a mobile is just a tool to handle day to day tasks on the go and for calling and texting WITH EASE. For this I need a decent hardware like Snapdragon 480 or 695. But, at the same time it is really absurd to pay the asking price of Nokia X30 or G60 just for the sake of HMD. For your information, I know to choose my mobile.

Secondly, I spoke only about Nokia devices which launched with Android 12 and 13. Hope you are aware that Nokia G400 launched with Android 12. Other devices you mentioned like Nokia X10 launched with Android 11. Also, the said devices X10, etc., are not available in all countries.

I don't understand, what do you mean by "G22 hardware a step forward in hardware criteria". Please explain with references.

If you find it difficult to answer my genuine questions, then you would go tired naturally. I don't need anything cheap or free but, at the same time is it right for HMD to exploit consumers by asking to pay more for a simple hardware? Ask your beloved HMD to launch Nokia G400 globally for the same price as they have priced it. I will be pleased to pay their asking price. If HMD has released this G400 globally, I will not be here to speak about this device. To put it correctly, you DEFEND HMD's pricing by insulting me by saying that I am asking it for free. Again you defend them by saying that they don't run a charity show. Do you mean to say that it is ethical to exploit consumers to pay their bills? Again you say that HMD is a small company. Why don't you Google it to see the range of their businesses? If they aren't capable they couldn't have bought NOKIA from MICROSOFT. Since they use Google's Android doesn't mean that they are small. Even Microsoft uses Android. Just because Google provides Android services doesn't mean that Google is the only largest organisation in the world.

You've said that you write here to learn more. But, I don't feel so because you don't seem to accept facts and figures. Let me retire for God's sake. Take care. Bye.

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Carol
n@x
08 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023WOW Well. It seems you are here exactly, to defend HMD. The... moreI do not know what you're talking about, G400 is more then a year old, closer to x10, x20, xr20 and g50, and they all have an SD CPU. Letting the even older ones out of the discution. Yeah their recent entry level devices are using unisoc or whatever other low-end cpu, but well, they are cheap.
I do not support the g22 release with android 13 but well... it is a step forward in hardware criteria. I do not know if the other devices you listed are really launching with android 13, i mostly do not care about low end devices, they are not something i would buy no matter what.
Anyway, am kind of tired answering everything you just said, but what clear is, is that you want everything cheap, free if possible. Sorry but they also need money and the workers olso need a wage to live from. So they are yeah no charity company. I find all their devices to be ok priced, except for x30 that's a bit on the pricier side. But take a look at xiaomi, a copy paste company, that now sale's phones for 1500€. hmd's nokia devices might be a bit more expensive, but there are a hack lot of reasons behind this. From thr fact that it is a small company to the fact that their OS is clean of trakers, ads and other implementations chinese companies insert into their devices to be able to sell cheap. We talk ethics, morals and principles here, plus support. So yeah they do not cost a bit more just because of clean OS, but also because of the fact that they make no "after sale" income as most of the other brands, and still offer longer support for longer the most of them brands. The decision is yours for what you buy, infested OS with lack of support or clean OS. Nobody forces you to buy any of them, and you can't force them either to sell cheap just because you find them expensive.

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Anonymous
uud
07 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023Of course there are devices that can be considered better, ... moreWOW Well. It seems you are here exactly, to defend HMD. There is nothing wrong in it. Might be true that you work for them. So now, you want me to troll constructively.

Let me ask you a genuine question. Of all HMD's latest lineups with Android 12, every mobile other than their Nokia G60, X30 and G400 employ a non-Qualcomm SOC, the best budget friendly being G400 which is priced ethically by HMD but, is reserved only to T-Mobile. HMD only wants to sell their overpriced Qualcomm variants globally by taking pride in saying everything as you say. All the other mobiles with Android 12 are just basic entry level mobiles. Though these mobiles are also priced higher relative to competition, it is admissible since HMD employs bloatware free Stock Android. Now, HMD has launched their Nokia G22 with Android 12 instead of Android 13 to escape Android 15 update, which is clear without a doubt just because their other two budget lineups, their Nokia C22 and C32 has been launched with Android 13.

To be precise, I love Stock Android but, with a decent spec sheet like Nokia G400. To be precise Google Pixel 6a and Nothing Phone 1 are best value for money devices than Nokia X30 in every aspect. For your information, I will definitely buy Nokia G400 if it is launched globally. But, it will never happen. Even if it happens, it will not fall in the same budget class.

Above all, I know the reason why HMD is not releasing a budget friendly device with a Qualcomm processor, globally. Because, they believe that it will cannibalise the sales of their other budget variants. But, the fact is that, this belief only accounts to lost sales of HMD, by losing their sales to competition. Consumers who need Qualcomm processors are indirectly forced by HMD to look for competing brands.. Some might prefer other budget variants of HMD if they value Stock Android more than Qualcomm processors. I think, I have to live only with Nokia G22, if my budget is low and if I prefer only Stock Android because, there is no other choice left with Nokia lineups. But, if I sacrifice this bloatware free Stock Android preference, I have plenty of mobiles with Qualcomm processors from different brands.

Stock Android doesn't mean that it is highly secured because, Android is not a secured OS and can't become secured until it becomes a closed eco OS like iOS. Stock Android (with Android One) is just a bloatware free Android User Interface. If competition chooses to adopt this style Nokia will be thrown out of the game.

By looking at all Nokia lineups, it makes me to conclude that either HMD will release a Qualcomm based mobile priced heavily or release only a budget friendly non-Qualcomm based mobile.

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Anonymous
mek
07 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023You too just say nothing. You just keep on praising this mo... moreOf course there are devices that can be considered better, and of course that every person has other needs, and likings, that does not mean that anyone can talk crapp everywhere he/she wants, about a device that the person never used, without being confrunted. This kind of unconstructive trolling gets on my nerves, that is why i always comment when there is to comment no matter what brand or section. Ever seen me unlishing believes/ opinions and my experiences with this device in Chinese brands comment sections? Or whatever other? Nope, so how am i forcing people to buy it? And you are who? The one that came here to "help" people by puting nokia down? Well, sorry but i ain't going to stop talking back to people that have nothing to say but "opinions" based on whom ever pay them or out of desire for trolling. I also never praised this device, i just said what it does, and how good it is at doing that, if that hurt your trolling side, i'm sorry. Unlike you, i am NOT here to convince anyone of anything, i am here to learn about new devices and sometimes to learn from others, even tough i barely find someone able to do constructive criticism this days. Besides specs zombies and trolls, there is nothing left.
Last but not least, i do not buy nokia devices because i consider them better then anything else, i buy them because i want a clean OS with a lot of support and mostly, because i want to support the company out of own principles. If this bothers you, something clearly to be seen, well then you'll have to live with it, and live with the fact that not everybody shares your "opinion" about nokia devices. When you troll a device in it's comment section, you'll almost always be confrunted, if you can't handle that, well, stop trolling. And if you can't handle a discution and opinion differencies, well stop commenting all together.

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Anonymous
uwr
07 Mar 2023

Carol, 07 Mar 2023You just said nothing... The device holds it's charge ... moreYou too just say nothing. You just keep on praising this mobile all the time as if you are the Marking Chief of HMD. Why don't you allow others to covey their beliefs, opinions or experiences whether it is Good or Bad? If someone say something bad about this device, you simply jump in. Is it right to say that there are no better mobiles other than Nokia X30? To be honest there are plenty of mobiles which are better than this mobile. Also, the asking price, also counts. Not everyone in this world can be as rich as you. Even if they are rich, you can't force anyone to expend their money on this mobile. You can't force anyone to taste everything you like. You have said and praised enough of this mobile. Hence, Thank you very much for all your valuable opinions. Now, please allow others to covey their opinions.

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Carol
mek
07 Mar 2023

toddluvzgta, 04 Mar 2023Like I whined about earlier on the threads under this phone... moreYou just said nothing... The device holds it's charge for about 10 hours of continuous usage./screen on time. Not great, but good enough to geht anybody throughout the day.

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toddluvzgta
6MB
04 Mar 2023

Like I whined about earlier on the threads under this phone, the batteries inside these Nokia's are weak ah.

Yes Nokia provides three years of updates, but the assurance of the durability of the Nokia phone in question is all still coming from a Finno-centric standpoint.

You would have to hibernate or like work a 6-hour workday everyday like these Finns, for the battery to still be in good shape at the end of the 2nd year of use if you haven't sold it off yet. Or you would have to be a real casual user of the phone and not heavily relying on it to get through the day.

I am somewhat miffed that the battery is this weak as I am on the go but waiting for my 5.4 to be charged to a reasonable percentage as I type this. I am not so sure about the 8.3 released around the same time but I would not be willing to pay that much more for another Nokia (albeit with a 5G chip) with just slightly better specs and a slightly better battery.

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Anonymous
uwr
04 Mar 2023

Minu, 02 Mar 2023It's never too late imho. Some of my friends that use... moreI use my computer as my backup device.

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Carol
mek
03 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 03 Mar 2023Maybe not so fortune people have no need for an iphone. ...... moreTgis is not about what it does or nor, it is about company ethicy.

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Anonymous
Hkt
03 Mar 2023

Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah sadly apple does not have the ethics and mentality tha... moreMaybe not so fortune people have no need for an iphone. ...

what does it do that 200 cheap desktop and a 100 dollar camera can not ?

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Minu
IWT
02 Mar 2023

Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah, apple is knowm for introducing some "slowdowns&q... moreIt's never too late imho.
Some of my friends that use Apple phones use Nokia phones as backup devices, especially the trusty old 6.2 and 7.2. Why? All because of barebones stock android that works fine.
Some others, especially those who use Samsung phones as their backup phone, change their phone nearly every year or two. Even if the older model works well enough, that's a waste of money for sure. And that's supposedly the brand known for giving consistent cumulative updates for the longest time.
Suggest your friends using Apple to get a Nokia as a backup phone. They wouldn't regret it at all.

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Sin
0Rf
02 Mar 2023

Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah, well as long as there are people lacking personality,... moreSadly yeah

The average consumer the bulk of the money isn't phone who care about much other than how a phone looks or how popular it is

The media will hype and do payed reviews that never help
Saying we need all screen phone fashion trend
Old features are not needed etc

Like every Chinese brand is a wannabe iPhone
But even Samsung & Google ever brand does some more so even others

Basically pear pressure too confirm too the standard of being a iPhone

All rousted by tech industry payed reviewers
It's what there payed too do

Some of them are getting better and seeing the problems unfold
as I doubt even they want a clood based os phone only that is portless e-sim no pay monthly service too use but not own

They only want camera too be as they all like make videos 24/7 and payed for ads and promotions

So with most the market and popular opinion being fashion trend people where most the money is
Yea people who miss use tech products as u say tech can always be used for evil

Mainstream phone market might actually be doomed
That's sad as the brands people come too like start liking getting worse over time overall

There is some good
Some tech reviews are actually good and
do very helpful reviews on technology and more in depth honest reviews and advise

I think people like myself might have really had a impact on the market
As I have in a way really put tech reviewers on the hot seat

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Sin
0Rf
02 Mar 2023

Carol, 02 Mar 2023Yeah sadly apple does not have the ethics and mentality tha... moreAndroid & iPhone they also coexist but iPhone isn't a even a competitor too the android market

I think apple is just a bad influence on Android

All the android brands see apple get way with anti consumer stuff and till it because normal
Apple will take everything away that's not nailed down there phones

Then every android brand sees they have been given the go ahead then copies apple squeeze money out of consumers and be greedy

So by apple existing problems happen actually so like a dual independent monopoly system

Both sides companys can complete too be better at squeezing money out of the consumer it's remarkable effective

There are some people who consider either
But both lock people in very tightly

At least with Android company there is choose of phone brands and favours of Android

But if we look at how phones are made
It's obvious it's probably as bad as it can gets really broken system going downhill

No control at all over are hardware or bare minimum and not much software choice

Phones only designed too last 2-3 years at best
Also very expensive on top

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Carol
mek
02 Mar 2023

Anonymous, 02 Mar 2023I always just two phones. An iOS and an Android phone. And ... moreYeah sadly apple does not have the ethics and mentality that i want to support, but you are right in that regard, they complete eachother and could do a lot better if they would have been a "for the people company" and not a big fat greedy corporation whos ethics are against developement, competition and not so fortunate people.

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Carol
mek
02 Mar 2023

Minu, 01 Mar 2023iPhones are showoff material basically. I've never see... moreYeah, apple is knowm for introducing some "slowdowns" with time, they probably still do it.

I actually have a friend that always had android and got tired of them, mostly samsung, because, quoting him: they never worked properly. So he bought an iphone to see if there really is such a difference and so good as every apple user claims, well he said that he will probably never go back to android, because once in his life he can actually use everything he's phone has to offer. If found it sad, but in the same time, i could understand he's problem. A guy that does not want to tweek his device, he just want's everything to work, and samsung is not that device for sure. I told him that he should try clean android, but well, is too late😅.

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Carol
mek
02 Mar 2023

Sin, 01 Mar 2023Yeah it's sadly a lot of people rather buy a phone tha... moreYeah, well as long as there are people lacking personality, the fake market will keep on flourishing, with a lot of them even financing terror grups and other crime cartels. People are blinded by their own greed and insecurity and denial about who they actually are.

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Carol
mek
02 Mar 2023

Sin , 01 Mar 2023Do you have a option on Alcatel brand ? Or any experience ... moreBack in the day Alcatel was quite innovative amd had some cool stuf on their phones, were also robust and keeping up with the competition. The chinese version i never heard of so i don't know what to say about it. I do not think that nokia holds their devices patents, nokia bought alcatel network division only, as far as i know.

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Anonymous
3d6
02 Mar 2023

Minu, 01 Mar 2023iPhones are showoff material basically. I've never see... moreI always just two phones. An iOS and an Android phone. And i can tell you, there is plenty to like in an iPhone. Just like it is in an Android device. They don't exclude each other, in my opinion. They complete each other.

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