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  • 22 Feb 2023

Anonymous, 22 Feb 2023Again you are doing the same thing. Your posts are full of ... moreThat's probably a chinese company (not all) thing only ... putting laggy ota update for phones deliberately to force people buy new phone . Speaking from experience with 3 redmi phone .


I never heard a nokia phone being unusable after os update . Laggy, slow ,bugs ... yes . But not unusable . But my redmi note 6 pro died right after i updated to new miui version .



Although google made update process easier ... but its never as smooth as the os pre-installed. Because no company invest money to perfect a phone that has already been sold . And yes manufacturers still need programmers to test the os updates provided google . Its why chinese manufacturers dont update their phones . Because it cost them money and they just don't care about consumer after they have made their profit.


Android is not a static os ... even a perfect core os update is ruined after subsequent play service updates .you have very limited knowledge in this matter and should do extensive research after you comment on a tech forum. If you want stability over security buy something like moto

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    • 22 Feb 2023

    Carol, 22 Feb 2023There is literally no brand that updates the devices so fas... moreAgain you are doing the same thing. Your posts are full of compromises for HMD. From where did you learn that HMD is a small organisation and they can't afford good programmers for Android updates. The biggest joke of this decade. You are simply out of your minds. Manufacturers take advantage of everything just because of people like you who support and speak for them.

    For your information, Android updates are very simple after Google's introduction of Project Treble. To be precise even Android version rollback is also simple. But, none of these services exists just because of one simple treason. To earn more money. Also, it is much more easier with Stock Android because it doesn't employ additional Custom UI/Skin like other brands. Sometimes Android updates are made bad on purpose to force consumers to go for a new mobile, the reason why mobiles with no promises of Android updates are preferable. But, even in this case mobiles can be made to go bad, through bad security updates. You are in a world full of people smarter than you. You can't find these information anywhere. You have to reason it out for yourself. To put it correctly, even God cannot save our world.

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      • 22 Feb 2023

      Carol, 22 Feb 2023What? How am i fooling readers?By not admitting facts and compromising on everything on behalf of HMD.

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        • 22 Feb 2023

        Hoova , 20 Feb 2023What is in your opinion an acceptable upgrade time of not s... moreThere is literally no brand that updates the devices so fast, a lot don't even get updates, so i do not get the frustration on hmd, they do the best they can.
        As, i said, hmd cannot be compared to giant companies, their developement is slow, and there is a reason why. Not enough developers (that are already very hard to find if you can't afford to pay them 150 € per Hour), they are as many as half of a department at Samsung. Because of the chinese copy paste fload, they are still fighting to step foot on a segment where they stabelize sales. They promise Timely updates, not fastest updates ever. And they always delivered, letting nokia 9 fiasco asside.
        For me, an update should come when it is ready, as long as the device runs great and has up to date security, i see no reason to rush it. Android 13 brings some performance improvements and little to nothing new beside that stupid implementation where google decided to put wifi and data toggles in the same place (something that i really no not want).i know how to turn off notifications and i always do to all the apps besides the social/email ones so the turn off notification when app installs, is a neet implementation, but not something i really need or care about, it is not like i install apps 30 times a day.
        If google would put internet access toggle, would be something i would actually care about.
        It appears that people keep talking about how a 13 and the comming 14 made big leeps when we talk security and privacy. The only big leep in security and privacy would be a real firewall that would let the user to stop apps from leeking information, or spreading viruses in internet. What they do instead is not privacy nor better security algoritms, they actually just limit functionality of the apps, until they become useless, but good that ad infested crapp games and other useless apps can still be installed and still have internet connection...

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          • 22 Feb 2023

          Anonymous, 21 Feb 2023Yeah true. It is not an excuse but you simply compromise to... moreWhat? How am i fooling readers?

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            • 22 Feb 2023

            Sin, 21 Feb 2023Never getting updates is fine with me I see little benefit... moreI couldn't disagree more. The last couple of Android updates have brought massive improvements in privacy and security, and version 14 is to bring even more on that front.

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              • 21 Feb 2023

              Hoova , 20 Feb 2023What is in your opinion an acceptable upgrade time of not s... moreNever getting updates is fine with me
              I see little benefit from os updates or changes made

              I actually regret updates I did get and wish I could rollback OS updates as they hog full 10gb storage on my budget phones and created compatibility issues with apps

              Just future software never mixes well with older hardware never a good user experience

              Just don't break want's not broken

              Google also actively making android worse with ever new android version
              So I don't have anything to look forward too either

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                • 21 Feb 2023

                Carol, 21 Feb 2023That was not an excuse.Yeah true. It is not an excuse but you simply compromise to fool readers here to increase profits of HMD.

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                  • 21 Feb 2023

                  only1nx, 20 Feb 2023Excuse not good Even most China & Samsung phone now ha... moreThat was not an excuse.

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                    • 20 Feb 2023

                    Carol, 20 Feb 2023Between anounced, release and haveing an actually stable en... moreWhat is in your opinion an acceptable upgrade time of not six months? 8? 10? A year? By that time, x30 owners will be updating to a version that has been superceded. I'd personally accept something like four months of wait, that's understandable. Five even if there are implementation problems. In the end, Nokia had clean Android, so it should be easier than other brands that user their own forks.

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                      • 20 Feb 2023

                      Carol, 20 Feb 2023Between anounced, release and haveing an actually stable en... moreExcuse not good
                      Even most China & Samsung phone now have android13

                      Half year late & still no update for x30 or g60
                      Shamful for nokia

                      They promised regular update but make us wait over half year to get, this not reliable or trust type behavior

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                        • 20 Feb 2023

                        Imbukwa, 18 Feb 2023Have a look at this comments of the X30. That will make you... morePixel phones cost 150 dollars to make .. but they sell it at 500vdollars . Everyone is fazed by the fact that 1. Its made by google and gets the update first . But thats not a feature ... thats discrimination at its best .. whatever new thing they add to a new os version they exclusively do it on their pixel before giving it to anyone else . So naturally they update faster . ( yes they release developer beta versions but google cooks them in oven a lot brfore beta version released for public and guess the device they test it on ..)


                        Pixels have terrible hardware .. they are using same sony sensor since pixel 2 .. i bet most of you didnt even know that . Its just a software gimmicks to make phouos better than previous version of pixel so they can push sells of their mediocre repetitive handsets that no one gives a crap about . Hmd is equally crap . Their vision definitely doesnt level with old nokia philosophy . I think the only feature they can adopt and endure is the durability . Xr20 was the only true nokia after nokia 9 pureview . These two actually bought something unique to table .



                        Pureview had its flaws but then every beauty has its flaws . And thats how we progress .. by trying to push limits

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                          • 20 Feb 2023

                          Hoova , 19 Feb 2023Android 13 was released in August 2022 and the X30 still ru... moreBetween anounced, release and haveing an actually stable enough version to also be able to use it, is a far fetched thing. An that is like 6 Months ago, if you think that's too long, well.... sorry but, you also don't know to much about developement nor technology. So yeah pixel would be the only device for you if you want the fastest updates.

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                            • 19 Feb 2023

                            Android 13 was released in August 2022 and the X30 still runs version 12? Well I guess that answers my question. Going for the Pixel

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                              • 19 Feb 2023

                              Hoova , 18 Feb 2023Thank you for the comprehensive answer I really appreciate ... moreStill on Android 12, it has the february security patch. If you want the fastest updates possible, then there's only pixel 6a left. With nokia you will get the updates, but not that fast.

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                                • nid
                                • 18 Feb 2023

                                The february patch for the X30 and the G60 is out any idea when Android 13 will roll out for the phones?

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                                  • 18 Feb 2023

                                  Anonymous, 17 Feb 2023Released 2019 specifications in 2023 with doubled price ? ... moreHMD doesn't have the recourses that Chinese competitors have and therefore they need to make a very good phone like the X30 and sell it with a healthy profitable margin because unlike the Chinese BBK group of Xiaomi with a truckload of dollars they cannot afford to sell phones at a lost to gain customers. For example Google have sold Pixels for years at a lost, just to gain marketshare but Google has a ton of cash to do so.

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                                    • 18 Feb 2023

                                    Imbukwa, 18 Feb 2023Wow. Your comment shows lots of immaturity. You get so irri... moreWhen you read people doing some "how good my remimi 11 is" in nokia forums you pretty much know that they are not having a nokia. Besides that, i never said that all people there do not owe a nokia, also i never said that the complainmets are not true....

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                                      • 18 Feb 2023

                                      Imbukwa, 18 Feb 2023Wow. Your comment shows lots of immaturity. You get so irri... moreThe guy asked for a bit of information,and you send him to a bunch of complaiments "center". Doing the same thing over and over again, trying to send people away from this phone, for no apparent reason, but you call me immature?

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                                        • 18 Feb 2023

                                        Carol, 18 Feb 2023Actually the x30 has a higher quality case and glass, i mea... moreThank you for the comprehensive answer I really appreciate it. the Nokia definitely looks more beautiful, although the Pixel is smaller, and hence easier on the hands. The thing is, how quick are the updates on x30? On the Pixel, they are literally instantaneous. Does the x30 run Android 13 right now? And what is the most recent security patch level it has received? January, February?