Nokia X30

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• 03 Feb 2023

swaraj, 03 Feb 2023I'm not saying its irrelevant. Practical sustain... more1 and 2.
I do not quite understand your problem with recycled aluminium, do you understand what that is? Quality wise you do not compromise nothing while recycling aluminium.
Is actually wired to think that reshaping a metal into another form will compromise it's properties. That will mean, that jewellers give the people only subpaar quality because they mostly reshape old jewellery or coins. They should only use pure gold\silver and remake the whole nine yeards of mealting and combining pure gold\silver and whatever others with zinc or Copper or Palladium or whatever other metals to make them hard and sturdy enough for wearing... Please don't tell me that you think gold rings are pure gold?...
That whole proccess is a lot more wasting then melting and reshaping what has already been put together.
How could a tech company order a car company to use recycled materials? What a childish clame. Anyway, as far as i know, there are car companies that use recycled materials for some parts. Where are tones of aluminium used on cars? Besides wheals, that are not really aluminium because they mixed with a lot of other metals to be able to stay in shape. And what this has to do with one another? Phones are sold with millions, every few months, nothing gets even close to that. This is not about reducing industry to one bit, it is about reducing phone manufacturing trash to eco friendliness. Tones of tech waste less is better then doing absolutly nothing about it.
By your claim, everything is b.t so nobody should do nothing about it, we should all be ignorant and embrance donald's stupidty.

3. there you are right, and is actually a good solution. As far as i know, they are sold with chargers in less privileged Countries at the same price, or even cheaper then in europe, so they actually tought about it, but well, your solution would be a better one. Even tough i could imagine that some rich people might still not give a darn about the extra price and still buy devices with chargers even tough they do not need one. I my self have an 18w charger from nokia 9, am actually glad that they did not deliverd a charger, i have enough of those.

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• Hkt
• 03 Feb 2023

Carol, 02 Feb 2023Good points, but Enviroment is actually vital and is really... moreI'm not saying its irrelevant.

Practical sustainable practice when making smartphone. :
good battery , more charging cycle
-gg victus so screen (the most fragile part of smartphone) last longer .
- good mobo
-longer updates



Impractical misleading eco friendly feature of this phone :
- recycled aluminum. It's utter nonsense to compromise on quality of skeleton (the frame)of a 200 g smartphone that costs 500 dollars . Like how much can 50 gm of high quality aluminum can impact nature adversely?? Its just a market trick .

If the corporate are really concerned about environment. They should tell car companies ,train cars manufacturer,shipyard to use recycled material . Cz they use so much aluminum o(r any other material )


- no official charger being sold for the phone . It's true people have a lot of charger lying around at home . BUT NOT ALL PEOPLE DO . Besides 3rd party charger have quality compromises and may harm the phone . So they should make 2 types of box . 1 . That has charger and cost more 2 . That doesn't have charger and cost less

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• 03 Feb 2023

Tom209, 03 Feb 2023Look. If you're clever, you should realize that I was ... moreNice save 👌 lol

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• 03 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Fair points you've raised in your previous responses, ... moreOf course the best for enviroment would be to sell only hardware and let the user decide for everything. But the whole tech world worked against that, little by litte until we ended up in this mess where laptops have solderd RAM and storage. Battery removal is vital for another one to two years or so, but it is the second most important, without updates, charging a device is not enough, and how many people use a device for 10 years or more? But yeah, i am ok with the idea of changing the battery, but there is more enviromental friendlyness into making the battery sustainable, to last for about 5 to 6 years, after that, there is all down-hill anyway. Depending on each person views about what sustainable means and minding the fact that batteris are very unfriendly to the enviroment, you can decide what is better, to make more batteries or better batteries?
Yeah apple is the culpit of all this b..t that happens this days, it is really sad, but hey they are forced now to sell spare parts, which is something, but well... not enough, as they produce even more soon to be garbage.
I like the idea of Circular, while is quite nice to have it in private segment, i think that it will benefit a more in an Enterprise enviroment. So yeah, others should do it too, it is a far fatched idea tough. Some brands might see the potential but i do not know, cause licensed for Enterprise device will cost more and would have to be very clean. The trend is tough th eother way arround, the cheaper the better, and not to many manufactures care about security or privacy or enviroment.

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• 03 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Fair points you've raised in your previous responses, ... moreOf course the best for enviroment would be to sell only hardware and let the user decide for everything. But the whole tech world worked against that, little by litte until we ended up in this mess where laptops have solderd RAM and storage. Battery removal is vital for another one to two years or so, but it is the second most important, without updates, charging a device is not enough, and how many people use a device for 10 years or more? But yeah, i am ok with the idea of changing the battery, but there is more enviromental friendlyness into making the battery sustainable, to last for about 5 to 6 years, after that, there is all down-hill anyway. Depending on each person views about what sustainable means and minding the fact that batteris are very unfriendly to the enviroment, you can decide what is better, to make more batteries or better batteries?
Yeah apple is the culpit of all this b..t that happens this days, it is really sad, but hey they are forced now to sell spare parts, which is something, but well... not enough, as they produce even more soon to be garbage.
I like the idea of Circular, while is quite nice to have it in private segment, but i think that it will benefit a lot in an Enterprise enviroment, so yeah, it might come to some other brands tha see the potential but i do not know, cause licensed for Enterprise device, would have to be very clean, and aparently not to many manufactures care about security or privacy or enviroment.

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• 03 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Breaking news buddy: No you can't. Moto is only on... moreWell, you can. And i always disabled Google (yeah the app) and digital wellbeing is even easier. You can disable chrome, calculator even camera, call app, contacts, messages, pretty much everything besides launcher. I've done that a lot of times before finding adb wild possibilities. So now i prefere to use adb though, and uninstall them. On other devices i konfigured for my family or friends and so, i could also disable pretty much anything i wanted. Samsung was the most annying i've configured because of the tone of bloatware and s..y bixby, that will break a lot of functions if disabled, if not actually breeks the device.

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• 03 Feb 2023

dutchdude34, 03 Feb 2023I quote you here at the g73 section It'll also be c... moreLook. If you're clever, you should realize that I was bantering to get a reaction from HMD fanboys - due to their immediate defensive nature over the X30 - and it worked! 😅

Yes - I can be an immature fool at times - but it's only for banter.

Nevertheless, I stand by some of the more serious points I've raised in terms of specs to price/performance ratio - and in this case, personally I believe the G73 is better value for money - keep in mind, this is a direct response to someone elses question who asked "X30 or G73".

I've aired my serious grievances over the X30 in the past - and yes I was disappointed upon its release as I was expecting a lot more. These expectations weren't met, and I was sour and bitter.

But with Carol's help, his input and his opinions - I now understand why some people may prefer the X30 over other devices from other manufacturers.

So I apologize if I've offended you or anyone else in the HMD camp. It's really not meant to be taken seriously. These are just phones we're taking about at the end of the day 😁😁🥰

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• 03 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023How can you judge the build quality of the G73, when it has... moreYou say how can i just the Build quality,u can see it on the pictures right and see what material is used.
But if u think i can only judge when its out,how u can claim then that the g73 is a good device..

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Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Where have I recently used the word "Trash" to de... moreI quote you here at the g73 section

It'll also be cheaper upon release compared to the overpriced underspecced and trashy X30 - which is a total pathetic joke of a device

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• 02 Feb 2023

Carol, 02 Feb 2023Good points, but Enviroment is actually vital and is really... moreFair points you've raised in your previous responses, and this response.

In terms of environmental practices - what's your opinion on non removable batteries compared to removable? Which one would you say is more environmentally sustainable and suitable?

I've always felt non removable batteries are a way to force consumers to upgrade (sooner).. The trend starting with Apple and being followed by every other manufacturer. What are your thoughts?

& do you think the circular subscription option introduced by HMD should also be used by other manufacturers?

I like the idea in theory, but not sure if it fully works in practice.

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• 02 Feb 2023

swaraj, 02 Feb 2023well actually you were partial to moto . and said whatever ... moreGood points, but Enviroment is actually vital and is really disturbing to still read people that do not understand what's going on and how bad it actually is... not only disturbing but also damaging and sellfish and sad...

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• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Who mentioned chrome??? I haven't mentioned chrome o... moreyou can actually uninstall everything usind adb. While you can actually break you phone because using adb you can uninstall also very vital services for android to work, so it is also a be carefull WARNING sign.

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• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023How can you judge the build quality of the G73, when it has... moreThere were no Data breaches, there were phones intended for China that were sold in europe, if that was a hmd Mistake or someone elses, nobody will ever know. it could aswell be an inside job to do harm, or just pure careless logistics, if you refering to connections to chinese servers fiasco.
Charging ports problem are not only to be found on nokia devices, there are literally thousends of pages with people complaining about the charging port, no mater what brand.
I, my self did not have the problem with my devices, but i had somebody in the family with the problem. I blame the problem on the connection plates used in this slots. I do not know who made the slots but out of my experience i could fix the problem easily by cleaning the port with a toothbrush and isoprophyl alcohol. This would habe fix the problem for about a month and then it came again, the problem was also created by the cable, not only the port, with an older cable (which yeah, is not how it supposed to be) the device charged better. I presume that the connection plates were not made of gold as they supposed to be, but out of something cheaper, or Gold with more impurities that got oxidated for some reason, thus creating connection interruptions. In this period a lot of other devices had charging problems, so i presume that the manufacturer of the ports got greedy, and delivered subpar quality.

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• Carol
• mK0
• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 01 Feb 2023I find the Motorola G62's LCD display is more refined,... moreYou might be right there, hmd, for whatever reason did not use the pure black tech lately, i would blame them for that, but well, maybe they just think that is not worth the money, because who wants lcd buys lcd anyway and no matter how good lcd can be, amoled biased, will stop buying if LCD, you know the drill here in this comment section... if you followed what i've said, you probably stumbled uppon the tones of LCD bashers, so sorry if i threw you in the same Pot with them. I actually like LCD more too, but well, i bought the x30 because of it's size and camera, and build/design. I really had hard time choosing between this one, Fairphone 4 and nokia G60. I did not want to spend money on expensive devices anymore, but landed on the more expensive one again. Well, my hidden expensive hobbies.
X30 does feal a bit slower then G60 but that's because (well at least i thinks so) because of the Optimisations. Today came a bigger update with some optimisations, but i did not install yet. G60 is (maybe was) better optimised, and that is something that i again criticize on hmd. Yeah, the devices get better and very stable in time, i'm confindetnt in that because i use their android devices since Nokia rebirth, but that does not mean that a new commer will understand that. They really need to work on this. I mean, at this moment my Wifes x20 with android 13 is more snappier then my x30. Both on 60Hz refresh rate, well i like battery more then refresh rates:D. At 90HZ the x30 is snappiert but that's not the point. The Ui should be more fluid.

I am glad that someone takes notes on what i say, it means somethign to me, and hope i can help further.

And yes, we can agree to disagree.

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swaraj, 02 Feb 2023i think the reason you couldnt disable chrome is because th... moreWho mentioned chrome???
I haven't mentioned chrome once.

I'm referring to core Google and Google related apps - whether that's chrome, digital wellbeing, google framework, play services etc etc

My response/post was in direct reply to the member Carol - who likes to use googleless phones and disable all Google apps for security purposes. I was highlighting that this can also be done on a moto and isn't exclusive to HMD. 🤷‍♂️

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dutchdude34, 02 Feb 2023I dont say that the moto g73 is not a good choice,but u are... moreWhere have I recently used the word "Trash" to describe the X30?

I haven't said such a thing, and If I have, I apologise. It may have been to wind up my good old friend, Carol. 🤣😂

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• Hkt
• 02 Feb 2023

swaraj, 02 Feb 2023i think the reason you couldnt disable chrome is because th... more*disable chrome

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• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023Breaking news buddy: No you can't. Moto is only on... morei think the reason you couldnt disable chrome is because there's no other browser installed already. android must have a browser . if you haven't installed a 2nd browser you can't uninstall chrome

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• Hkt
• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023The difference between me and you diehard HMD fans is, I ho... moreG73 is not for a working man. it's more like made for people who don't get out of their bedroom(cz it has no noteworthy ip rating or gg victus or strong aluminum built) and have no real life , need fast processor and big battery to scroll tik tok or play games .

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• 02 Feb 2023

Tom209, 02 Feb 2023The difference between me and you diehard HMD fans is, I ho... moreI dont say that the moto g73 is not a good choice,but u are the one that calls the Nokia x30 trash in a post i saw.

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