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Carol, 11 Nov 2022Yeah, android is not a good OS overall, symbian was 3900000... moreAm not familiar with symbian os
It's a old version of Linux I think on old Nokia phones
It must be much better optimised then android
Yeah android
got a lot of problems with optimization
And ram management also android is a heavy is in general
Even the most powerful smartphones can be brought too there knees if you install enough android apps on them in just storage alone
It's a very uniquely android problem as apps can't sit in cold storage they just can't help but sip away at system resources
All i have ever know is android on mobile
Android does have strengths it's nearly a full functional desktop os with great app compatibly
But running smoothly on low end hardware is not one of them strengths I don't have high hopes for Google making any improvements with later versions of android most likely they just add spyware or lock down features
Android 12 feels rushed and like we are beta testing it the Nokia g10 shouldn't be running this badly with it's level hardware
The only other OS I have experience with is windows on desktop then there's Microsoft
wow Microsoft managed too make a OS even heavyer then android and the storage space needed for a boot drive is insanity and ram usage of window os especially the later versions with godlike system requirements just too run the os alone without considerable lagging and slow down is Madness's
It's really unfortunate as app developers and big companys are only targeting the latest and greatest flagship device's & smartphones with the best hardware available
So low end smartphones just suffering trying too cope with running the android os smoothly and mainstream apps and not every one can afford a better smartphone
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- 11 Nov 2022
Sin, 11 Nov 2022That's good Definitely worth giving a update on perfo... moreYeah, android is not a good OS overall, symbian was 39000000 times better optimised, but well, it does not exist, or not in the mainstream, anymore. The problem with android is that google never actually optimised it for working, but only for implementing their crappy AI, assisetent and whatever other "legal" privacy infrigment "features", but not for actually working with low end drvices, i've heard android 13, would change the game, i doubt, but well, who knows.
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Carol, 11 Nov 2022Seen no real performance issues with x30, and it is a midra... moreThat's good
Definitely worth giving a update on performance in a year or two on the Nokia x30
I did try Android 11 go edition Nokia c01 plus is a Androidgo smartphone
but it turned out how not too make a OS and smartphone instead of optimization making it work better the 1gb ram amount optimization just can't save it from it's performance problems
The Nokia 3.1 with 2gb ram I have even although it's running the full version of Android and has no storage space thanks too updates
It runs AndroidOne
The Nokia 3.1 does run a lot better sluggish yes but it's at least usable
all Nokia had too do was made the Nokia c01 plus a 2gb ram and it would of been fine
There a lot of bad corner cutting too make Androidgo edition light also and it's the worst Android version I ever used having some problems with pages never fully loading for reading stuff online and killing off apps force closed browser when am watching a video
Old Android version with 1gb ram still run terrible as ever but don't have software problems like Androidgo
Yeah the os matter the ram amount does a lot also
I wish more information was available on storage with smartphones as it's a hidden variable that plays a big role in performance
Am sure everyone knows the difference between a harddrive boot drive Vs a SSD for the os running smoothly
I hope SSD storage comes a thing on mainstream smartphones soon
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- 11 Nov 2022
sin, 11 Nov 2022I just looked up official system requirements for android 1... moreSeen no real performance issues with x30, and it is a midrager, i doubt that flagships have problems with android 12. Also UFS 3 delivers up to 11,2 Gbps ( means 1375MB/s) read write speeds on one lane, can go way higher on two. Of course that this does not mean that the storage installed can also deliver those crazy speeds, but well, the BUS (or whatever the connection is called this days in smartphones) is for sure not the bottleneck here. So i would not worry to much about performance, Especially based on ram or storage. The problem will always be the OS itself, if good optimised or not really. Low end and very low end smartphones, might suffer because of RAM, but there commes android 13 go edition, so all good.
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I just looked up official system requirements for android 12 the future looks grim
Google Android 12 hardware level requirements include 6GB RAM
There was minimum storage
speeds as well
At least 120MB/s sequential write, 250MB/s sequential read, 10MB/s random write, and 40MB/s random read speed
But no smartphone manufacturer adds storage read & write specs too there spec sheet
A lot of smartphones going really suffer this a very tall order too meet
I think Google has gone completely crazy they some serious hardcore specs too need too meet system requirements just for android 12
I have seen complaints across the board from different brands with performance problems on smartphones running android 12
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- 11 Nov 2022
Minu, 11 Nov 2022I have no reason to mislead anybody. The reason why I said ... morePeople definitely should look for display modals of smartphones in shops too see how good they are for themselves
As it's best too see different smartphones for yourself in person and see in person with first hand experience
Am kinda the tech support in my house as well as my mum have had used enough difference smartphones too be able too estimate performance
8 ram and above is smooth
4 & 6 GB ram is moderate performance
2 or 3 GB ram is sluggish
1gb ram don't even work properly
A better processor we help with performance as single tasks and reloading something will be quicker
Android versions will also play a role the later versions of Android are a lot heavyer and run worse on same hardware
Stock Android runs smoother than blootware filled Android on same hardware
I can't guarantee a smartphone under 8gb of ram will be smooth
All of us have agreed under 8gb ram is not smooth
Mainstream apps & browser's and new Android versions are getting heavyer ever year
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- 11 Nov 2022
Minu, 11 Nov 2022Performance is generally decent on low end Nokia phones. Mo... moreThe budget Nokia smartphones are good because they are very cheap and lots of people can't afford better phones
I strongly recommend 2gb ram bare minimum
I feel very bad suggesting 1gb ram smartphones any longer
I have the Nokia 3.1 & Nokia c01 plus 50 pound budget priced each new
I was impressed by the Nokia 3.1 given the price point
It seemed ok at first for a month
but then
consistent freezing happens sometimes it can behave it's self sometimes but it sure is sluggish just lags no matter what you're doing on it
The Nokia c01 plus on the other hand is a disgrace am disgusted by how badly it runs the browser keeps closing it's self pages keep reloading even web pages that do manage too load don't always fully load everything on the page
I feel like I got ripped off buying it
The Nokia c01 plus was so bad in performance I switched back too using the Nokia 3.1 because at least it works
The Nokia g10
Got for my mum but my mum needs replacement as
The Nokia g10 is obsolete main reason we buy new phones is always for better performance
phone a smartphone like the OnePlus 5 or 5t is ideal for her as they have 8gb ram
Nokia g10 always crashes freezing up black screen time out of 15secs no matter how many times we sit it too 5 minutes it goes back to 15sec after another crash
If only we could get it back too Android 11 it might run better
Nokia phones like the Nokia 5.1 that is the improved version of my Nokia 3.1
And avoiding base model we be less sluggish
I do also have the yotaphone 2 this was a flagship of 2014 Snapdragon 800 & 2gb ram but even it has aged so badly in terms of performance
Often performance problems come more notice able after a half year of using a smartphone
People who multi task and are inpatient performance will make or break a smartphone for them
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- 11 Nov 2022
Sin, 10 Nov 2022Morse law is a problem for old hardware with trying too run... morePerformance is generally decent on low end Nokia phones. Most of my lecturers and teachers use Nokia phones such as the 3 (with low end mediatek processors), 5, 6, 3.1, 4.2, 2.3 (with that barebones Helio A22), 1.4 (with a SD215) etc and I've never seen anybody complain about consistent freezing (except in certain heavy apps like Google chrome) or having reliability issues (except in 1GB RAM models, that's why I don't recommend buying any phone with 1GB RAM). At least they do the job well, even if they aren't for heavy gaming.
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Sin, 10 Nov 2022That's rather miss leading when you say it like that ... moreI have no reason to mislead anybody. The reason why I said that earlier is because you seem to judge specs from the smoothness of a phone 😁
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- 10 Nov 2022
Carol, 10 Nov 2022Well then, that tdoea not aound as being better😅. Morse law is a problem for old hardware with trying too run new software
In you're case you mostly owned the flagship device's of each year
Yeah it is unfortunate in the case with Nokia 9 pureview as android 11 was a promise Nokia was unable too keep
A lot of buyers brought Nokia 9 because they wanted the latest software so it was a big deal breaker for some Nokia fans
The Nokia x30 is a mid range the choose of hardware by Nokia is worrying
Hopefully it will be ok
How well the performance will age is a unknown too me and how well the hardware will hold up with the latest android versions and software
Feedback on performance will be helpful
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- 10 Nov 2022
Carol, 10 Nov 2022Well with that hardware, is very hard to believe that andro... moreYeah
You would think so
Android 10 on that tier of hardware snapdragon 845 &8gb ram
should be no problem
The umdigi a9 pro 8gb ram & mediatek hello p60 still
Not as powerful as the razor phone 2 also
But was on android 10 and updated too android 11 was rather smooth
(Both are stock android smartphones )
I think Google is too blame for making new android versions too heavy and hard too run
And ending support for old versions of android
It's clear Razer see things very differently too brands like Nokia
Razer nope don't meet system requirements
Flagship gaming smartphone of the time
Nokia easily let's upgrade even the budget androids phones 2 new android versions no problem
Google not set very clear system requirements for each android version
Am upset with Google as they shouldn't ended support for old android versions like 9 8 7 6 5 & 4
especially considering most android emulaters run android 7 and many old smartphones are still good today but stuck on old android versions forever
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- 10 Nov 2022
Minu, 10 Nov 2022The smoothness of a phone doesn't indicate the experie... moreThat's rather miss leading when you say it like that
Yeah stock android runs smoother on the same tier of hardware
Bloatware is a generally problem on android smartphones and can handlycap a android smartphone because of system resources being used in the background
This can be done too any smartphone as a result of having too many apps running in the background
A smartphone 3 or 4 times the price of you're Nokia 8 say a gaming smartphone will completely abliterate it in performance
Even the very old and dated red magic 3s with just 12gb ram
Still be much faster in the OS UI & browser
We are stock android fans around here so yeah we think stock android is the best
The Nubia red magic phone running red magic ul is not are prefered version of android and does have problems such as missing a app draw and having change back too button navigation
The user experience we can agrue stock android is better and it's better too get software support for many years
This is something we like about the Nokia phones yeah the phones like Nokia 8 & 9 must be a lot smoother then mine
Phones like the Nubia phones do have some special features like given you greater control over you're GPU & CPU & cooling and built in gaming mode with hardware switch
I have only used the original one
But can see sheer power of them and responsiveness of them
Even the original was so fast and responsive sensitive we struggled using it before we got more used too it's speed changed a few settings
They are beyond silky smooth I can't even imagine how fast there maximum spec latest flagship is
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- 10 Nov 2022
Sin, 09 Nov 2022umidigi yes It is chinese brand It's got a high trus... moreWell then, that tdoea not aound as being better😅.
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- 10 Nov 2022
Sin, 09 Nov 2022Nokia G11 Plus 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM
It should have moder... moreWell with that hardware, is very hard to believe that android 10 was to blame, with that hardware even android 15 will run smoothly as long as the developers know what they are doing. Pixel devices receive almost 5 years of os and security updates, you don't see them slowing down. Also never had a nokia slowing down, not with android, and especially not with windows phone.
So yeah, the moral of the story is, if is true what you say, that they never updated to android 10 with that hardware, well. Is them to blame, or money. Nokia 9 also has sd 845 with 6 GB RAM and never showed one lag on a10 and would still be great with android 12 if that camera fiasco would have not been an impediment.
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Sin, 09 Nov 2022Nokia G11 Plus 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM
It should have moder... moreThe smoothness of a phone doesn't indicate the experience or its potential imho. In fact there are overpriced bitten fruit logo products that have so much limitations than an average dumb phone, yet feels silky smooth.
And my Nokia 8 with just 4GB of RAM runs much faster than any Android that can cost as five times or more. Only Google chrome crashed once and that's because of having over 250 tabs open.
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- 09 Nov 2022
Minu, 09 Nov 2022Exactly. The technological industry is nothing more than a ... moreNokia G11 Plus 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM
It should have moderate performance
The question is how smooth it will run after 1 or 2 Android version updates and people installed all of the apps they need on it
Will it be smooth enough after a year
I can't say for sure either way
I know 8gb ram & 128 ROM is minimum too be smooth
The razer brand made a gaming smartphones said how powerful they where originally later
didn't update the razer phone 2 too Android 10 the reason there given for this
was the smartphone was too underpowered too be able too run Android 10 smoothly enough
They got a lot of hate from there customers for this although as the razer phone 2 specs are Snapdragon 845 & 8gb ram
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- 09 Nov 2022
Carol, 09 Nov 2022Ok, never heard of umidigi, probably chinese corporation?umidigi yes It is chinese brand
It's got a high trust rating on trustpiolt
Although am not sure if the umidigi smartphone can be classified as brand name smartphones or not they have a generic clone feel too them
The umidigi a9 pro 8gb ram we have comes up on phone finder as a Samsung a9 pro from 2016 on gsmarena
This kinda is rather common weirdness and strangeness often find on generic clones smartphones it trick gsmarena that it is a smartphone that it clearly is not
My best guess is everything manufacturered in China
and it's a clone phone ?
so is umidigi using spare left over motherboards from other brands or spare parts just put together inside a umidigi named body and screen idk
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- 09 Nov 2022
Sin, 09 Nov 2022Sometimes a good device Is cheaper then a more expensive de... moreOk, never heard of umidigi, probably chinese corporation?
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- 09 Nov 2022
Carol, 08 Nov 2022A questioning the devices they owe, how much they cost and ... moreSometimes a good device Is cheaper then a more expensive device
It was so impressive we thought it was too good to be true at the time
The umidigi a9 pro 8gb ram a year ago did blow are minds how good it was for the given price it was selling for at the time
We had smartphones from Samsung apple Xiaomi & sony in the house family owned at similar price they cost but the umidigi a9 pro 8gb ram out class them all
It could even hold its own up against mid range from Xiaomi in performance one of my sisters got a Xiaomi X3 NFC on sale for 230 pound
So the umidigi was in the same tier as the Xiaomi but only cost 135 pound nearly half the price on top of that it's free of blootware and ads on top
All of the old flagships and budget smartphones are out classd by the umidigi a9 pro 8gb ram we had
The umidigi a9 pro
It's OS & UI are stock Android it's not the most refined software it's slightly buggy but it's a good experience too use and fast and system stability is good
But today it's much more expensive and the modern version the umidigi a13 pro are selling over 200 pound in the uk
Not ever smartphone at the same price point is equal
Often bargain hunting is how we have gotten such good deals
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- 09 Nov 2022
Sin, 08 Nov 2022True yeah
I did try too buy the better versions
I do a... moreExactly. The technological industry is nothing more than a monopoly.
Luckily, Nokia made a decent base model with the Nokia G11 Plus since it has 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM. It wouldn't cripple very quickly tbh