Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro review
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BlackHat, 07 Oct 2019I'm no comparing Antutu v7 vs V8, in those links clearly sh... moreCordials greetings to you,my dear "BlackHat"; not at all! I'm not "Anonymous" huh
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ZolaIII, 07 Oct 2019The Mali G76 is around 40% less power efficient than Adreno... moreForge it, he already said that this GPU has higher frequency than the Adreno 630, wanting to imply that it is more powerful.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2019Where did I speak about Antutu? Where did I speak about 30... moreI'm no comparing Antutu v7 vs V8, in those links clearly shows antutu v8 vs v8 with a clearly different of 30% but in the Gsmarena review didn't show that different. Also is clearly that you are the user ElisArt, you both write in the same way and alway and always support each other.
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ZolaIII, 07 Oct 2019The Mali G76 is around 40% less power efficient than Adreno... morePersonally I will not mention the Kirin 810 since it is not the subject of comparison here. And then I think that if he does not enter the discussion it is obviously because it is notoriously better than the other two in all compartments and it is without dispute possible. So your reference to the Kirin 810 is off topic, simply. For me the Kirin 810 is the best midrange SOC currently, for your guidance.
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ZolaIII, 07 Oct 2019The Mali G76 is around 40% less power efficient than Adreno... moreSimple, most people dare not touch Huawei for now, as we do not know if its mobile will continue to grow future without google services. Secondly, Snapdragon is the common factor whereas Exynos and Kirin are more of in-house.
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AnonD-893002, 06 Oct 2019Even if I had to say wrongly (because the Helio g90T is bet... moreThe Mali G76 is around 40% less power efficient than Adreno 6xx on same node and same frequency, G77 should be really competitive. Feel free to check it out on Anandteach. All this nonsense with G-T SoC's from both & pushing GPU clocks higher just makes efficiency worse. The aka 12 nm is actually 14 nm TSMC node with ultra high density rooting library's and reduced number of layers (third gen 14nm), Samsunga 8 is the same for 10 nm node (third gen 10 nm). MTK doesn't use Samsung & TSMC doesn't have third generation 10 nm. The A76 is s significant power hug as it is even for 7 nm lithography, the A77 is 50% wider and bigger A76 meaning it also burns 50% more energy while performance is only 20~22% better so not really all that good design. There are reworks of A76 intended for server's (E1) that have greatly improved cache coherence and cache typology along with bigger L2 L3 caches. They achieve only around 15% better performance while being around 20~25% larger but they see around 40% improvement in Web browsing tasks (on pair with A77). Those are much better suited for mobile SoC's integration than A77 with shift to 7 nm EUV especially considering Web based performance & experience is the most important metric.
Somehow not a single clown hire didn't even bother to mention the Kirin 810 which is superior in each & every way to S730 & P90.
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- 07 Oct 2019
AnonD-894375, 07 Oct 2019Fully agreed. GSM is just filled with fanboys who choose no... moreI approve what you say, morning, noon and night. And it's clear !!! Like what you have to be realistic, pragmatic and appreciate each thing at its true value, and make the best choice for oneself objectively; instead of denigrating to denigrate by fanboyism.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2019I'm not sure... And it's off-screen test, I don't consider... moreThis is also important because it is always the capabilities of the GPU that are put to the test. And if it was useless, such a benchmark would never have had a place in the tests. So for me it counts too, even if the tests "on the screen" have primacy.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2019Where did I speak about Antutu?
Where did I speak about 30... moreAbout the battery, I prefer not to trust the propaganda (on the so-called increase of the capacity of the battery to avoid a fast and abundant drainage of this one) and to observe this:
If we consider that the standard of the capacity of a battery today is 4000mah then a battery which has a capacity of 4500mah would represent an increase of 12.5%. However, taking GSMarena's battery tests into account, which gives the RN8 Pro a 114 hour endurance rating, this means that the 500 mah more (compared to 4000mah) represents 12.67 hours over these 114 hours; either the 12.5% increase in battery (compared to 4000mah) represents these 12.67 hours in these 114 hours of endurance test. So if the RN8 Pro having an engraving fineness of 12 nanometers, had a battery of 4000mah, it would have (theoretically) had a coast of endurance of 101.33 hours (114 - 12.67), ie the equivalent of MI 9T (endurance rating, which is 100 hours) with a fineness of etching of 8 nanometers.
In conclusion, theoretically if the Redmi Note 8 Pro had 4000mah of battery it would have had the same endurance rating (about 100hours) as the MI 9T, which has a fineness of etching of 8 nm, while the RN8 Pro has a engraving fineness of 13 nm; thus the increase of the RN8 Pro battery to 4500mah to compensate for so-called rapid draining the battery is not a leading argument and is very mixed for me.
And I think that Xiaomi did it as an insurance for the autonomy of the RN8 Pro, rather than to avoid a huge bleeding of the battery as if their processor was a sinkhole in consumption of energy. And by this analysis I can see the good hardware and software optimization on this RN8 Pro (if I consider that the endurance of the RN8 Pro with 4500mah should have been close to that of MI 9T, and smaller (the endurence rating) if she initially had a battery of 4000mah).
So, I would say that the software optimization of the management of energy resources is really good on this phone and must be put forward, and it is she who should rather be appreciated instead of thinking that the big battery has for primary objective to limit a huge draining battery. Thank you
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AnonD-893002, 06 Oct 2019Even if I had to say wrongly (because the Helio g90T is bet... moreFully agreed. GSM is just filled with fanboys who choose not to believe that their favourite brands are being challenged.
But having said that, if I were to choose between SD730 and G90T at the same price, i would still go for the 730, performance is close enough, but it is still 1-2 generation ahead in terms of process at 8nm vs 12nm. If there is a significant saving for G90T, then it becomes very much more attractive.
For those who argue about xxx is few FPS xxx ahead etc, those different are neligible. If one is so concern at getting the best FPS for your games, why are you still looking at mid-range phone? flagship CPU phone are not much more expensive.
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- 07 Oct 2019
Taketheplunge??, 06 Oct 2019Hi Thinking of delving into the market for a new device .... moreAs you are coming from S7, i suggest you to go for the K20/k20Pro instead. The Note8Pro will still provide improvement, but will not be as significant as you are coming from flagship level. I for one moved from S6 to Note3 many years back, currently on K20 Pro. No regret leaving Samsung. Can't argue with the price point.
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This is also important because it is always the capabilities of the GPU that are put to the test. And if it was useless, such a benchmark would never have had a place in the tests. So for me it counts too, even if the tests "on the screen" have primacy.
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AnonD-893002, 07 Oct 2019You have preceded me in this demonstration that I was about... moreI'm not sure...
And it's off-screen test, I don't consider it's important...;-)
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BlackHat, 07 Oct 2019You had prove what I said!, you are saying that the G90T is... moreWhere did I speak about Antutu?
Where did I speak about 30%?
I certainly not make that mistake to compare Antutu v8 ans v7
You're wrong, you go on an other subject, you invent what others said..
You're dishonest!
Antutu v7 results are close too...
Around 210000 for SD730
And around 225000 for G90
About battery...yes maybe it's true...
And Xiaomi put a bigger battery to deal with that! What's the problem?
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- 07 Oct 2019
r31ya, 07 Oct 2019Some throttling test result wise, G90T is not that differen... moreWhat is the ambient temp in test? 16C? 20C
South Asia daily temp exceeding 36C, so forget about low temps
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- 07 Oct 2019
BlackHat, 06 Oct 2019Many benchmark in youtube was saying that the G90T beat the... moreSome throttling test result wise, G90T is not that different with SD730.
But the result may vary depend on the test program.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAvH2CmIUWA
It doesn't throttle that badly in PUBG as long as some setting is off (ultra but without HDR?) and it does throttle badly on emulation app.
So far, note 8 pro have great value.
It's just suffer with "heating issue" click baits who didn't even do benchmark/comparison test.
So far its redmi note 8 pro have consistent heat stress test with up to 44*c body, up to 50*c directly on the chip.
which in comparison a bit higher than one plus 7's up to 42*c body, 47*c directly on the chip.
But its nowhere close to the old heating issue which is at 75*c.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2019You're not able to understand what you see...
Your video i... moreYou had prove what I said!, you are saying that the G90T is way superior in antutu v8:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/xiaomi-redmi-note-8-pro/antutu
at least 30% more than the 730G
https://www.kimovil.com/en/realme-xt-pro/antutu
but in your link I'm not seeing a 30% difference, in the practice has the same performance that the 730G, with a obviously less advantage in battery due its 12nm process.
And a CPU thermal throttling test is also proof of worse temperatures, it is a 12nm chip.
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How is GPS signal strength reception? And can receive Galileo?
Also how is 5ghz wifi performance?
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- 07 Oct 2019
Anonymous, 07 Oct 2019You're not able to understand what you see...
Your video i... moreYou have preceded me in this demonstration that I was about to make:
This demonstration shows enough the superiority of the Helio g90T on the SD 730; and what is interesting in this presentation is that the Xiaomi MI 9T and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro are two smartphones from the same manufacturer, both for the mid-range. I am convinced that the GFX 3.1 Manhattan benchmark (Offscreen) that lacks the MI 9T test would have made him a loser against the Redmi Note 8 Pro.
Unfortunately, we can not verify this because this benchmark is missing at MI 9T, while it is realized on the RN8 Pro.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_8_pro-review-1997p4.php
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- 07 Oct 2019
BlackHat, 07 Oct 2019I do not see where I was not respectful, the facts are ther... moreYou're not able to understand what you see...
Your video is a CPU test...
And you compare framerates linked to GPU!
You really want to talk about technics? You're not able to!
About your video....in your opinion 730's behavior is better?
I don't think
I'm ok with Kirin 810...not with SD730.
Once more go and get 730's results!
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9t-review-1950p4.php
You can notice as good or better results on G90T
GFXBench Manhattan 3.1 On-screen :
- SD730 : 24fps
- G90T : 24fps
GFXBench Car Scene 3.1
- SD730 : 13fps
- G90T : 14fps
3D Mark sling shot extrem 3.1
- SD730 : 2329pts
- G90T : 2439pts